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I will agree with Harlem Resident in that some mixed income buildings provide different amenities to different tiers of tenants, so it is not surprising to hear the subsidized tenant does not have rooftop access, which is only for market tenants.
As for the blinds, I would just put them up and not bother asking anyone. If any building staff were speaking to me in that manner however, I would immediately be reporting them on the spot, repeatedly until it was resolved. Throw back some choice words to them....they are the building staff...I mean really..they are probably low-income just like her and easily replaceable...sounds like they need a reminder.
install them yourself, or get someone from where you got the windows shades from.
she doesn't specify that she has them, but wants them installed, it says clearly
When she asked about installing darker window shades to help block out the morning light
From the original post: "She asked about the installing."
"Have them installed" != "give blinds and/or services to me for free." The blinds and their installation are two separate things. I...really, really don't think a person would demand free blinds. She might have been asking them to be installed for free but that is an assumption--nothing in the post indicates that.
From the original post: "She asked about the installing."
"Have them installed" != "give blinds and/or services to me for free." The blinds and their installation are two separate things. I...really, really don't think a person would demand free blinds. She might have been asking them to be installed for free but that is an assumption--nothing in the post indicates that.
It would have been better if she said to the maintenance man: I am going to buy new shades for my apartment, If I pay you, will you be able to hang them for me?. Again, where ever she bought the shades, most times the place where she gets them from will install them. Maybe your first staement wasnt worded correctly
She didnt say she had the shades, or was even going to get the shades.
PS: you would be surprised at what people will demand, just sayin'
I'm almost 100% certain that the building does not allow any modifications to the apartment. The way it was delivered to you is the way they expect to get it back if you ever move.
In my building, I install WHITE window blinds as a courtesy to the tenants. I do this on purpose as my goal is to have a clean uniformed building look from the outside. Aesthetics and curb appeal are very important to me. My tenants are NOT allowed to install window blinds in a different color other than white. The tenants can put whatever color curtains they want as that does not affect the exterior aesthetics of the building.
Maybe the 80/20 building has a similar rule and they don't want people coming in, breaking rules and modifying the apartment. Besides, from my experience, low income people tend to be the OUTCAST of the tenant stock as they tend to mess up the vibe and aesthetics of the building. They'll use bed sheets as window shades which looks low class and is a tell-tell sign of a low income person living there. They'll also put holes in the walls and install throughout the apartment clothing lines to dry their laundry. Low income people also tend to use their fire escape as a balcony and/or a place to store a bike or air conditioner that is not being used. So I can understand where the building staff is coming from.
With low income people, you have to keep a close eye on them to make sure they don't break the rules as they have a different way of living. Low income people in a 80/20 building need to understand that they need to CONFORM their behavior to what the predominate culture and lifestyle is in their building.
Don't be "THAT GUY" that blast music from his apartment, that has loud and rowdy conversations.
Don't be "THAT GUY" the smokes weed and now the whole building lobby and hallway smells like weed.
Don't be "THAT GUY" that pisses in the hallways.
Don't be "THAT GUY" that throws his cigarette butts on the floor.
Don't be "THAT GUY" that puts the puerto rican or dominican flag on his fire escape, apartment door, or apartment window for all to see.
If you don't want to be "discriminated" against, then CONFORM your behavior and don't act "low income" and you will BLEND in fine with the other market renters. If you refuse to CONFORM your lifestyle, you will have problems in the building, get dirty looks from staff members and other tenants from the building for being "THAT GUY".
I'm almost 100% certain that the building does not allow any modifications to the apartment. The way it was delivered to you is the way they expect to get it back if you ever move.
In my building, I install WHITE window blinds as a courtesy to the tenants. I do this on purpose as my goal is to have a clean uniformed building look from the outside. Aesthetics and curb appeal are very important to me. My tenants are NOT allowed to install window blinds in a different color other than white. The tenants can put whatever color curtains they want as that does not affect the exterior aesthetics of the building.
Maybe the 80/20 building has a similar rule and they don't want people coming in, breaking rules and modifying the apartment. Besides, from my experience, low income people tend to be the OUTCAST of the tenant stock as they tend to mess up the vibe and aesthetics of the building. They'll use bed sheets as window shades which looks low class and is a tell-tell sign of a low income person living there. They'll also put holes in the walls and install throughout the apartment clothing lines to dry their laundry. Low income people also tend to use their fire escape as a balcony and/or a place to store a bike or air conditioner that is not being used. So I can understand where the building staff is coming from.
With low income people, you have to keep a close eye on them to make sure they don't break the rules as they have a different way of living. Low income people in a 80/20 building need to understand that they need to CONFORM their behavior to what the predominate culture and lifestyle is in their building.
Don't be "THAT GUY" that blast music from his apartment, that has loud and rowdy conversations.
Don't be "THAT GUY" the smokes weed and now the whole building lobby and hallway smells like weed.
Don't be "THAT GUY" that pisses in the hallways.
Don't be "THAT GUY" that throws his cigarette butts on the floor.
Don't be "THAT GUY" that puts the puerto rican or dominican flag on his fire escape, apartment door, or apartment window for all to see.
If you don't want to be "discriminated" against, then CONFORM your behavior and don't act "low income" and you will BLEND in fine with the other market renters. If you refuse to CONFORM your lifestyle, you will have problems in the building, get dirty looks from staff members and other tenants from the building for being "THAT GUY".
You know hilltopjay, I'm really starting to like you. Excellent post
Anyone in the 80/20 program experience discrimination by building staff?
My aunt recently moved into a new building in the west 50s and she's been getting a lot of grief from building staff. They hint at knowing who in the building is part of the program and have told her on a few occasions to just be thankful she's there.
It surprised me because I've been living in an 80/20 building for almost 10 years and the staff in my building don't dare speak a peep about the program. There seems to be a great fear of any perceived discrimination and we are asked to report any problems that aren't addressed quickly.
window blinds? thats your problem.
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Maybe the 80/20 building has a similar rule and they don't want people coming in, breaking rules and modifying the apartment. Besides, from my experience, low income people tend to be the OUTCAST of the tenant stock as they tend to mess up the vibe and aesthetics of the building. They'll use bed sheets as window shades which looks low class and is a tell-tell sign of a low income person living there. They'll also put holes in the walls and install throughout the apartment clothing lines to dry their laundry. Low income people also tend to use their fire escape as a balcony and/or a place to store a bike or air conditioner that is not being used. So I can understand where the building staff is coming from.
With low income people, you have to keep a close eye on them to make sure they don't break the rules as they have a different way of living. Low income people in a 80/20 building need to understand that they need to CONFORM their behavior to what the predominate culture and lifestyle is in their building.
It is for this reason that the mixed-income buildings are also VERY mixed in terms of success.
The behavior, few eyes on anybody, and the more socialized people suffer a decline in quality-of-life.
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