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Old 07-03-2013, 10:30 PM
 
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Which do you prefer? I'm talking about the whole overall attitude of the city (safety, affordability, cleanliness, atmosphere, people). Do you think NY would still be like this if it wasn't for 9/11?
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Old 07-04-2013, 01:03 AM
 
Location: Glendale NY
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I think the city would be largely the same even if it wasn't for 9/11. Almost every major American city that previously had a big reputation for crime has undergo massive gentrification, and New York is no exception to this.
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Old 07-04-2013, 02:03 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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Gentrification was well underway before the 9 11 here in NYC. Gentrification is a long and on going process. NYC has been experiencing gentrification since the 1960s in the east village. I do thinm that the attacks of 9 11 left a huge void in the city. When I travel outside of NYC some ex natives tell me that they moved out of NYC because of 9 11. After 9 11 the powers that be needed to make NYC attractive for the rich, wealthy and powerful again in the form of real estate and hedge funds. Usually after and massive destructive terrorist attack like 9 11 would instill fear in investors.
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Old 07-06-2013, 05:09 AM
 
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I don't see a big difference in NYC of the late 1990s vs. 2000s. The early 1990s the crime rate was higher. the city was dirtier and the people less friendly, but towards the end of the 1990s during Mayor Giuliani's time that all improved. The big difference before and after 9/11 was the issue of terrorism. Before 9/11 safety meant safety from "regular" crime and after 9/11 safety meant more safety from terrorist attacks.
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Old 07-06-2013, 04:38 PM
 
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Gentrification was well underway before the 9 11 here in NYC. Gentrification is a long and on going process. NYC has been experiencing gentrification since the 1960s in the east village. I do thinm that the attacks of 9 11 left a huge void in the city. When I travel outside of NYC some ex natives tell me that they moved out of NYC because of 9 11. After 9 11 the powers that be needed to make NYC attractive for the rich, wealthy and powerful again in the form of real estate and hedge funds. Usually after and massive destructive terrorist attack like 9 11 would instill fear in investors.

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Old 07-06-2013, 05:18 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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I know many people who left New York after 9/11. Many had lived in Tribeca for decades.

I myself lived ten or so blocks away.
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Old 07-06-2013, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia,New Jersey, NYC!
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I don't see a big difference in NYC of the late 1990s vs. 2000s. The early 1990s the crime rate was higher. the city was dirtier and the people less friendly, but towards the end of the 1990s during Mayor Giuliani's time that all improved. The big difference before and after 9/11 was the issue of terrorism. Before 9/11 safety meant safety from "regular" crime and after 9/11 safety meant more safety from terrorist attacks.

yup

the street vending pre-Giuliani was stifling and it was more of a free-for-all on the streets. that dood went military and cleaned everything up with some crazy rules...


ironically, then came 911

i think i prefer the old nyc, with smarter rules ( i was a kid back then)
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Old 07-11-2013, 05:17 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Getting the major crack dealers put away was what paved the way for a safer environment. Afterthat, people from other places felt more comfortable living there. Housingwas still relatively cheap too.
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Old 07-11-2013, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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The city was definitely more lively early 90's, but there's a give and take to everything. To get a more organized, safer city we gave up some character.
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Old 07-11-2013, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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classic nyc 1970-1995. RIP.
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