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Old 08-19-2013, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Manhattan
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Old 08-19-2013, 07:49 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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I'm not sure I'm ready to sound the trumpets and claim gentrification is here yet, but I do think this is pretty cool. I hope they do well.
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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The Bronx Is Gentrifying. After four years of construction, the Bronx's "first luxury hotel" is now open for business and taking reservations. An former opera house (whose stage was graced by stars like Houdini, the Marx Brothers and George Burns), it went through stints as movie theater and nightclub before its makeover, courtesy of developer Jay Domb, into the now-open 60-room Opera House Hotel. Simple flourishes like a fleur-de-lis may not scream uber-high-end, but when you're getting a room for $120-180/night that's 20 minutes from midtown, who really cares as long as it's clean? Conversion complete.

The Bronx Is Gentrifying - Curbed NY
149th street is still hood as ever, however down the block on Southern Boulevard and 149th street I have seen a spike of Transplants in the area at non working hours. Even today this morning I saw folks who do not look like locals walking in a haste to the number 6 train station at 3 avenue. Again the other day while walking past the Mitchell PJS I came across some Swedish looking guys with backpacks trespassing through the development. I'm like what is going on here? And a beardo guy jogging in a retro shirt on 138th street. Funny that not to long ago there was a shoot out on Willis Avenue where one man was killed by the Deegan not to far where the these gentry folks live. I thought crime will scare these folks away and it has not. Geez I hope the next Mayor can turn low income folks into solkd working class/middle class residents so that gentrification can slow down and with out the worry of being priced out! As for the boutique hotel? I wish it luck and I hope the destitute of the area do not ruin like those on welfare looking for shelter, cheap escorts, and low income pot heads looking to cheat on their girlfriends and wives. I do hope a couple more of these pops up along corridors near 161st and 149th streets. Overall I really cant say my area is gentrifying but I can say its receving plenty of spill over from Harlem. Even the other day while going ot the fed ex depot in Port Morris I came across a Transplant wearing a college Baylor t-shirt who jogged from Astoria into Mott Haven. Again another sign of spillover!
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Old 08-20-2013, 12:26 AM
 
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Excellent location. I hope they managed to create a roof deck, the views of Midtown would be spectacular.

The lower Grand Concourse could defiantly use a boutique hotel too, vicinity of E 161st.
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Old 08-20-2013, 03:53 AM
 
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149th street is still hood as ever, however down the block on Southern Boulevard and 149th street I have seen a spike of Transplants in the area at non working hours. Even today this morning I saw folks who do not look like locals walking in a haste to the number 6 train station at 3 avenue. Again the other day while walking past the Mitchell PJS I came across some Swedish looking guys with backpacks trespassing through the development. I'm like what is going on here? And a beardo guy jogging in a retro shirt on 138th street. Funny that not to long ago there was a shoot out on Willis Avenue where one man was killed by the Deegan not to far where the these gentry folks live. I thought crime will scare these folks away and it has not. Geez I hope the next Mayor can turn low income folks into solkd working class/middle class residents so that gentrification can slow down and with out the worry of being priced out! As for the boutique hotel? I wish it luck and I hope the destitute of the area do not ruin like those on welfare looking for shelter, cheap escorts, and low income pot heads looking to cheat on their girlfriends and wives. I do hope a couple more of these pops up along corridors near 161st and 149th streets. Overall I really cant say my area is gentrifying but I can say its receving plenty of spill over from Harlem. Even the other day while going ot the fed ex depot in Port Morris I came across a Transplant wearing a college Baylor t-shirt who jogged from Astoria into Mott Haven. Again another sign of spillover!
I think any whites moving into the South Bronx are about as poor as the locals, so that's not really gentrification if equally poor people move into an already poor area. Do keep in mind not all whites are well to do and I do know a number of Section 8 whites. They could be that. You can be white and on welfare with backpacks, and I have known such people.


As for this new hotel opening up, I'm not sure why someone would want to stay in a hotel on 149th Street. Then again, its not too far from Yankee Stadium so perhaps it can market itself to that crowd.

If the South Bronx gets more jobs and more investment like the beer brewery, Fresh Direct, among other new businesses, yes that can help turn more locals into working class and middle class people. You need major corporate investment for that.
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Old 08-20-2013, 04:13 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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I think any whites moving into the South Bronx are about as poor as the locals, so that's not really gentrification if equally poor people move into an already poor area. Do keep in mind not all whites are well to do and I do know a number of Section 8 whites. They could be that. You can be white and on welfare with backpacks, and I have known such people.


As for this new hotel opening up, I'm not sure why someone would want to stay in a hotel on 149th Street. Then again, its not too far from Yankee Stadium so perhaps it can market itself to that crowd.

If the South Bronx gets more jobs and more investment like the beer brewery, Fresh Direct, among other new businesses, yes that can help turn more locals into working class and middle class people. You need major corporate investment for that.
Please remember that I'm not refering it as gentrification and simply calling it spillover!
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Old 08-20-2013, 01:05 PM
 
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Did someone call me? = )

Since everyone has been thinking about me, I thought I would give you all some insider info:

The entire ground floor retail space (approx 15,000 sf) will be a beer garden, with full bar. You want gentrification...you got it! Should be open in 8-12 months.

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Old 08-21-2013, 06:33 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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$120-$180 a night? Now that's impressive. I wonder if it's true.
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Old 08-21-2013, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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I think any whites moving into the South Bronx are about as poor as the locals, so that's not really gentrification if equally poor people move into an already poor area. Do keep in mind not all whites are well to do and I do know a number of Section 8 whites. They could be that. You can be white and on welfare with backpacks, and I have known such people.


As for this new hotel opening up, I'm not sure why someone would want to stay in a hotel on 149th Street. Then again, its not too far from Yankee Stadium so perhaps it can market itself to that crowd.

If the South Bronx gets more jobs and more investment like the beer brewery, Fresh Direct, among other new businesses, yes that can help turn more locals into working class and middle class people. You need major corporate investment for that.
Because hotels in Manhattan are super expensive for the most part.
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Old 08-21-2013, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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The commercial RE market is actually pretty hot right now in bx. Rents have been going up. I'm seeing it on Fordham Road for instance. Old more hood kind of stores are going out of business and are being replaced by big box or by more upscale stores. Just recently a nice cafe went up near the metro north station. Also theres a party city and a Burlington department store going up as i type this. The best buy and walgreens coming to fordham plaza and both being massively successful as well as the sucess of the bjs at gateway set the ball in motion.
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