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I just moved into 4545 Center Blvd, one of the new towers in LIC. There's 3 of use on the lease, for a 2 bedroom. I was surprised that they only provided us with 2 sets of keys to the apartment and 2 key fobs for the amenities (which they charge monthly for). They had told us during the leasing process that we would get 3 sets. Now they want to charge us about $100 bucks for the 3rd set.
Is that legit? I mean, we do have 3 people on the lease; it's at least reasonable to assume we'd get keys per person. In particular, the key fob to the amenities seems a bit weird since we're paying for 3 people to have access.
I know it's not a ton of money, but it just seems silly to me.
I just moved into 4545 Center Blvd, one of the new towers in LIC. There's 3 of use on the lease, for a 2 bedroom. I was surprised that they only provided us with 2 sets of keys to the apartment and 2 key fobs for the amenities (which they charge monthly for). They had told us during the leasing process that we would get 3 sets. Now they want to charge us about $100 bucks for the 3rd set.
Is that legit? I mean, we do have 3 people on the lease; it's at least reasonable to assume we'd get keys per person. In particular, the key fob to the amenities seems a bit weird since we're paying for 3 people to have access.
I know it's not a ton of money, but it just seems silly to me.
You are the one thinking silly. You are NOT paying for 3 people!! That is absurd!
You have rented and have paid for a 2 Bedroom apartment. Nothing more. The apartment is not rented by the "person", it is not a hotel!
The number of keys and fobs allowed and the associated costs for such, again, is NOT determined by the number of occupants. Rather the developer *designs* the apartment and its undelying costs for a determined level of use. Generally, a two bedroom is designed the use of two adults NOT three!
Any additional costs NOT designed and determined by the developer is born by the renter(s), as approved by the LL. You want a third set, YOU pay for it! Yes, they said you w/get three, they just did not say you'd have to pay. Apparently, you assumed no associated cost and didn't ask.
Yes, you pay for the "amenities", but the fee considers the wear, tear, and upkeep of the amenities, NOT the cost of the fobs, beyond the allowed number per apartment.
Note, unlimited keys and fobs, given the cost, would likely result in higher fees and/or rent. If there were four of you, should the developer/LL bear the costs of four sets of keys and fobs? He could cut his costs, by restricting occupancy to two, couldn't he. Then where would you be? The LL would still have a rented apartment, just to somebody else!
I have never gotten more than one apartment key and one mailbox key and had to make copies until this place where they gave us 2 of each.
Then I added a drop-bolt from Home Depot (which also came with 2 keys.)
(Which reminds me...I should make an emergency set.)
You are the one thinking silly. You are NOT paying for 3 people!! That is absurd!
You have rented and have paid for a 2 Bedroom apartment. Nothing more. The apartment is not rented by the "person", it is not a hotel!
The number of keys and fobs allowed and the associated costs for such, again, is NOT determined by the number of occupants. Rather the developer *designs* the apartment and its undelying costs for a determined level of use. Generally, a two bedroom is designed the use of two adults NOT three!
Any additional costs NOT designed and determined by the developer is born by the renter(s), as approved by the LL. You want a third set, YOU pay for it! Yes, they said you w/get three, they just did not say you'd have to pay. Apparently, you assumed no associated cost and didn't ask.
Yes, you pay for the "amenities", but the fee considers the wear, tear, and upkeep of the amenities, NOT the cost of the fobs, beyond the allowed number per apartment.
Note, unlimited keys and fobs, given the cost, would likely result in higher fees and/or rent. If there were four of you, should the developer/LL bear the costs of four sets of keys and fobs? He could cut his costs, by restricting occupancy to two, couldn't he. Then where would you be? The LL would still have a rented apartment, just to somebody else!
Are you serious? You must be a leasing agent, you're very quick to make assumptions to cater to the leasing office's pov. We were explicitly told we would get 3 sets, and we wouldn't have to pay extra.
I have lived in several towers, across the country, and I have never seen an amenities fee not include the cost of the key fob, to gain access to said amenities. It doesn't make sense that the cost of the fob would be included in anything other than the cost of the amenities, because they are optional. I could not pay for them, and not get the key fob.
Don't straw man me, I didn't say we should get unlimited keys and fobs. Asking for a set per occupant that applied and was approved to be on the lease, seems very reasonable.
Yes, they building could have refused to allow 3 people in a 2 bedroom, which would've been fine. But they didn't, they approved 3. And again, they told us we'd all get keys, no extra charge.
You're comparison to hotels also makes little sense. Hotels charge by room, with a max occupancy. This is identical for apartments. The rent is fixed, regardless of 1 person or 4 people. It's the same situation in that regard.
Are you serious? You must be a leasing agent, you're very quick to make assumptions to cater to the leasing office's pov. We were explicitly told we would get 3 sets, and we wouldn't have to pay extra.
I have lived in several towers, across the country, and I have never seen an amenities fee not include the cost of the key fob, to gain access to said amenities. It doesn't make sense that the cost of the fob would be included in anything other than the cost of the amenities, because they are optional. I could not pay for them, and not get the key fob.
Don't straw man me, I didn't say we should get unlimited keys and fobs. Asking for a set per occupant that applied and was approved to be on the lease, seems very reasonable.
Yes, they building could have refused to allow 3 people in a 2 bedroom, which would've been fine. But they didn't, they approved 3. And again, they told us we'd all get keys, no extra charge.
You're comparison to hotels also makes little sense. Hotels charge by room, with a max occupancy. This is identical for apartments. The rent is fixed, regardless of 1 person or 4 people. It's the same situation in that regard.
Are you sure they said you would get 3 sets of keys WITH NO EXTRA CHARGE? Or did they say you would just get three sets of keys. Just go to the lock smith and save yourself like $90.
As for key fob, do you really need three? Just keep them in a shared spot and whoever is going can use them.
I was surprised that they only provided us with 2 sets of keys to the apartment and 2 key fobs for the amenities (which they charge monthly for). They had told us during the leasing process that we would get 3 sets.
Never trust anything anyone in real estate says unless you get it in writing. Preferably writing in blood drawn at midnight on a full moon, but even that's no guarantee.
Are you sure they said you would get 3 sets of keys WITH NO EXTRA CHARGE? Or did they say you would just get three sets of keys. Just go to the lock smith and save yourself like $90.
As for key fob, do you really need three? Just keep them in a shared spot and whoever is going can use them.
No need for all caps...Yes, I am sure. The other 2 people on my lease were there, they agree. We explicitly asked the question. And this thread is not even really about the lie. I can tell you about several instances of being lied to about far bigger issues than sets of keys, by real estate and service professionals in the last year.
I was/am just trying to ask whether providing fewer sets of keys, than the # people on the lease, was legit/typical/common or not. If this is the norm for this city, I'll just get over it. If it's atypical, I will go talk to the leasing office with more conviction.
Also, I am aware that locksmiths exists. I am also aware that sharing exists. Both have their issues, but this thread is not about those issues so I'll leave that alone.
Doesn't everyone understand the meaning of the phrase ALL caps? Or indeed even the meaning of the word "ALL?"
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