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Old 11-19-2007, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Confines of the 101 Precinct
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Now lets take this from her post...



I see, so there are infact a few places she will avoid. I guess not everything are a garden of Roses for her. Stop judging her.
lol what does that mean...nothing...because the same thing goes for me!
i'm just tired of the misinformation being handed out on this website.
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Old 11-19-2007, 03:22 PM
 
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What misinformation? She just say how she enjoy going to her local store and about those restaurants in East Harlem. I believe you can do that in some of these hoods. I know there are some great restaurants in East Harlem. Where is the misinformation in that experience?
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Old 11-19-2007, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Confines of the 101 Precinct
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the way she presented it made it seem like the neighborhood is an absolute gem. i am in disagreement with that. u know it and i know so lets stop the nonsense. what was the relevance of going out late for cigarettes? a joyful experience? whatever.....
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Old 11-19-2007, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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Where does she lives anyway? It is probably not the greatest area of the Bronx, but it can't be the wost area.
She lives in University Heights. Last I checked it was 5th in crime in the Bronx with a crime rate of 1200+ per 100,000. Also it's the only precinct (52nd) in the Bronx with an increase in crime, going up over 2% from last year.

She doesn't witness much of that though. She lives in a gated security Co-op. That's probably where her opinion is formed.
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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She lives in University Heights. Last I checked it was 5th in crime in the Bronx with a crime rate of 1200+ per 100,000. Also it's the only precinct (52nd) in the Bronx with an increase in crime, going up over 2% from last year.

She doesn't witness much of that though. She lives in a gated security Co-op. That's probably where her opinion is formed.
theres a few gated buildings with security behind devoe park, on webb ave. that might be where she lives. a couple of isolated buildings dont represent how university heights is---at all. that area has lots of problems. Moreso towards the L--but even by BXCC, where its a bit quieter, you're still in the ghetto.
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:47 PM
 
Location: South Charlotte
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in addition people's perceptions are formed by their postion in life, when I was in my 20's I'd do things and go places I'd never go now. People change and their perceptions change. People like the gal from the bronx who thinks living there is great, but she's never lived anywhere else, so she really has no way of knowing that other places can be nicer, she's content with where she is so in her eyes why wouldn't anyone else be content living there, but if she had the experience that others have of living in different places her mindset might be different.
If the bronx is all you know then you can't really understand why other people hold it in such low regard
I like your statement.

I think back to when I would club in Manhattan, and go back home to the Bronx on the 6 train (Soundview section) in the "wee hours" of the morning. No one ever bothered me, but I knew because of the time I had to be prepared to defend myself. I would not do that today.

As far as ghettos being livable, hell many of my family members still live in the ghettos of the Bronx and other boroughs. No one has had their car stolen or broken into. Everyone work everyday and hope for the best for their children, but some poverty stricken areas have more of an influence than others.

If I look at the people I grew up with, I notice that the ones that are doing something with their lives now, mostly come from tenement buildings opposed to the projects. I have had the luxury of living in both tenement and projects, so I understand the differences between the two and the difficulties that people face trying to survive in both.

So, in my opinion, I would say the worse "ghettos" are those areas with too many projects in a small area.
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Old 11-19-2007, 08:13 PM
 
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She lives in University Heights. Last I checked it was 5th in crime in the Bronx with a crime rate of 1200+ per 100,000. Also it's the only precinct (52nd) in the Bronx with an increase in crime, going up over 2% from last year.

She doesn't witness much of that though. She lives in a gated security Co-op. That's probably where her opinion is formed.
Ok so is the 5th in crime (according to you), but besides how high crime it might be, I have been to University Heights and alot of it looks ok from a streetscape point of view. I have to believe that the crime there usually happens late at night. I doubt the majority of the people witness crime all the time. Dangerous or not, I have walk in this hood before and I have to say that I like walking here. For me is sure better to walk than walking in Melrose or Morrisana or even Soundview. The vibrancy and the amount of people in Fordham Avenue is always a pleasant thing. One day I will take a photo tour of this neighborhood. Just wait.


Meanwhile I will leave you with this shot I took back in May...


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Old 11-19-2007, 08:23 PM
 
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theres a few gated buildings with security behind devoe park, on webb ave. that might be where she lives. a couple of isolated buildings dont represent how university heights is---at all. that area has lots of problems. Moreso towards the L--but even by BXCC, where its a bit quieter, you're still in the ghetto.
Hmmm, if you say that a couple of isolate buildings are not to be represented as part of a neighborhood, then that means that some housing project towers in a neighborhood are not even part of that hood? That did not make sense. Her buildings (and the people there) are as much part of the neighborhood as much as some Housing project buildings are in a hood.
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Old 11-19-2007, 08:29 PM
 
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the way she presented it made it seem like the neighborhood is an absolute gem. i am in disagreement with that. u know it and i know so lets stop the nonsense. what was the relevance of going out late for cigarettes? a joyful experience? whatever.....

She just say she enjoy walking in her hood. What, are people in that hood scare all the time of crime, that they can't even go to a local store or some restaurant and enjoy themselves? I have a hard time believing that they are that scare. What nonsence?
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Old 11-19-2007, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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Hmmm, if you say that a couple of isolate buildings are not to be represented as part of a neighborhood, then that means that some housing project towers in a neighborhood are not even part of that hood? That did not make sense. Her buildings (and the people there) are as much part of the neighborhood as much as some Housing project buildings are in a hood.
i said a few gated buildings dont represent what the vast majority of the housing is like in university heights, i didnt say those isolated buildings arent part of university heights. duh lol.

but theres only a couple of those high-security buildings in the area. 99.999999 % lol of the rest of the neighborhood have no security or gates. mostly tenements and run-down rowhouses.

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