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Old 09-22-2013, 07:21 AM
 
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You mean like all the corporate welfare "foreign aid" money that is "given" to places like Israel and Egypt,where the money never leaves the US but goes directly from the Federal Reserve to arms and weapons manufacturers right here at home ?
Can you prove it? Interesting.
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Old 09-22-2013, 07:27 AM
 
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You mean like all the corporate welfare "foreign aid" money that is "given" to places like Israel and Egypt,where the money never leaves the US but goes directly from the Federal Reserve to arms and weapons manufacturers right here at home,who then ship their missiles,rifles and tanks at ridiculously inflated prices?

Yep,
JUST like that.

And all the money the poor get for medical care. Wait, it is the doctors, hospitals, and insurance companies that actually get the money.

In the words of the incomparable Emily Litella: "Never Mind."

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Old 09-22-2013, 07:35 AM
 
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Can you prove it? Interesting.
Egypt May Not Need Fighter Jets, But The U.S. Keeps Sending Them Anyway : Planet Money : NPR

"Every year, the U.S. Congress appropriates more than $1 billion in military aid to Egypt. But that money never gets to Egypt. It goes to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, then to a trust fund at the Treasury and, finally, out to U.S. military contractors that make the tanks and fighter jets that ultimately get sent to Egypt."


"There's no conceivable scenario in which they'd need all those tanks short of an alien invasion," Shana Marshall of the Institute of Middle East Studies at George Washington University, told me."


"They are crated up and then they sit in deep storage, and that's where they remain," he told me.

The story with F-16 fighter jets is similar. Since 1980, we've sent Egypt 221 fighter jets, valued at $8 billion. "Our American military advisers in Cairo have for many years been advising against further acquisitions of F-16s," Springborg said. Egypt already has more F-16s than it needs, he said.

The scenario is the same for Israel and every other country we give "aid" to.Billions and billions and billions of taxpayer money used every year to produce weapons nobody needs to keep the defense contractors in business.

Eisenhower labeled it the military industrial complex and warned about it 50 years ago.It's still humming along bigger than ever.WTF do you think all these wars are about?
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Old 09-22-2013, 07:44 AM
 
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Egypt May Not Need Fighter Jets, But The U.S. Keeps Sending Them Anyway : Planet Money : NPR

"Every year, the U.S. Congress appropriates more than $1 billion in military aid to Egypt. But that money never gets to Egypt. It goes to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, then to a trust fund at the Treasury and, finally, out to U.S. military contractors that make the tanks and fighter jets that ultimately get sent to Egypt."


"There's no conceivable scenario in which they'd need all those tanks short of an alien invasion," Shana Marshall of the Institute of Middle East Studies at George Washington University, told me."


"They are crated up and then they sit in deep storage, and that's where they remain," he told me.

The story with F-16 fighter jets is similar. Since 1980, we've sent Egypt 221 fighter jets, valued at $8 billion. "Our American military advisers in Cairo have for many years been advising against further acquisitions of F-16s," Springborg said. Egypt already has more F-16s than it needs, he said.

The scenario is the same for Israel and every other country we give "aid" to.Billions and billions and billions of taxpayer money used every year to produce weapons nobody needs to keep the defense contractors in business.

Eisenhower labeled it the military industrial complex and warned about it 50 years ago.It's still humming along bigger than ever.WTF do you think all these wars are about?
Interesting
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Old 09-22-2013, 08:08 AM
 
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You got a rep from me on that one bluedog.
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Old 09-22-2013, 10:20 AM
 
Location: West Harlem
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Unless someone tells me I'm wrong, I'm fairly certain you and I are the only ones who do this who are currently commenting.
Which is quite evident from the responses, especially the tediously shrill "PC" ones.

Experience increasingly means - few answers, and lots of "well ... it's complicated."

I will maintain that I see honest people genuinely in need of help and nothing is there for them.
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Old 09-22-2013, 10:21 AM
 
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Just came to say, all the people who are happy about this, better take up self defense classes.

People will do anything when they're hungry.
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Old 09-22-2013, 10:22 AM
 
Location: West Harlem
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Eisenhower labeled it the military industrial complex and warned about it 50 years ago.It's still humming along bigger than ever. WTF do you think all these wars are about?
As have many cultural critics.
This has been a factor in earnest since WW II, grounds laid during WW I.
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Old 09-22-2013, 10:27 AM
 
Location: West Harlem
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Can you prove it? Interesting.
This is basically known.
It is what happens in fact; in practice, if you will.
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Old 09-22-2013, 10:28 AM
 
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Never been on fewd stamps or even collected unemloyment FTW!

I'll admit I'm a left leaner on most issues, but I when I lived in NY back in 2010, it really did challenge me a bit to have to witness how ingrained government assistance is into the culture over there. Almost every person in line at the supermarket would bust out their benefit card for the groceries. Admittedly I didn't live on the Upper East Side, but it seemed like if you were a brown person that didn't speak fluent english, they got you covered!

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