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I am not someone to shy away from sketchy areas (I lived in South Beach on SI for years), but I don't think I would feel safe in St. George.
I also think it's only convenient in St. George if you work downtown, which I don't. Otherwise you have to take the ferry and then a train/bus. And there are no express buses in St. George which is a big turn off (for me anyway).
But it is cool in its own way. Back in the 80s and 90s there was a lot of cool clubs/bars on Bay Street. I was always hanging out there. Can't believe how much it has changed though.
So,why are the prices so low and why don't more people consider living there? Is it just because it's Staten Island and has a kind of schmaltzy rep ? Like The Bx has a bad rep ? Is it just so uncool that nobody can bear to consider it ? Or is there some other reason ? I think if I worked in Manhattan,especially lower Manhattan,I'd give it very serious consideration but nobody ever seems to.
What gives ?
Residents of Staten Island pride themselves on being residents of New York City's "forgotten borough". Most residents of S.I. would like it kept that way. The folk there are descendants of Irish/Italian/Russian immigrants who were blue-collar workers like former NYPD officers and FDNY firemen. The borough has one train line, notorious Arthur Kill dump site, some farmland, and historically didn't welcome people of color (Black, Asian, or Hispanic). With surge of Russians, some African-Americans and Hispanics moved in. To OP - The Saint George area is "sketchy" and is just as a stop for S.I. Ferry. Few Italian-Americans there have links to organized crime family of neighboring New Jersey.
African-Americans and Hispanics living on island are treated as outsiders by Irish/Italian/Russian families steeped in history there. Staten Island doesn't get a bad rap like the Bronx. It's a unique borough where few outsiders are welcome. Producers and researchers of great "Copland" film conveyed this close-knit dynamic. I say Staten Island is nice place to visit, not comfy to live in.
Residents of Staten Island pride themselves on being residents of New York City's "forgotten borough". Most residents of S.I. would like it kept that way.
Some areas of SI is truly remote that there is no feel of a typical part of nyc.....I remember going to Prince's Bay many years ago for business in the summer, its almost feels I was in a tropical forest by the wetlands.
St. Geroge is a huge wasted opportunity. It is convenient to Wall st. employers, no doubt about it. Crime is the issue. Staten island politicians haven't got a clue about how to proceed to revitalize the area and Bloomberg ignored it.
Residents of Staten Island pride themselves on being residents of New York City's "forgotten borough". Most residents of S.I. would like it kept that way. The folk there are descendants of Irish/Italian/Russian immigrants who were blue-collar workers like former NYPD officers and FDNY firemen. The borough has one train line, notorious Arthur Kill dump site, some farmland, and historically didn't welcome people of color (Black, Asian, or Hispanic). With surge of Russians, some African-Americans and Hispanics moved in. To OP - The Saint George area is "sketchy" and is just as a stop for S.I. Ferry. Few Italian-Americans there have links to organized crime family of neighboring New Jersey.
African-Americans and Hispanics living on island are treated as outsiders by Irish/Italian/Russian families steeped in history there. Staten Island doesn't get a bad rap like the Bronx. It's a unique borough where few outsiders are welcome. Producers and researchers of great "Copland" film conveyed this close-knit dynamic. I say Staten Island is nice place to visit, not comfy to live in.
Are few outsiders welcome? I wasn't quite able to discern from your post whether that's the case or not...
What nonsense that is. Yeah..half a million people are conspiring to shun "outsiders".
perhaps that person meant was the area being gentrified with yuppies or hipsters.
I have friends who lived in areas in Brooklyn that had nice local character but was gentrified over the decades (you can probably guess where these areas are)....the plus is the area is cleaner & houses are worth well into the 7 figures....its kind of hard to really accept some of these "outsiders".
perhaps that person meant was the area being gentrified with yuppies or hipsters.
I have friends who lived in areas in Brooklyn that had nice local character but was gentrified over the decades (you can probably guess where these areas are)....the plus is the area is cleaner & houses are worth well into the 7 figures....its kind of hard to really accept some of these "outsiders".
Thanks, sirtiger. Clearly, you understood my point.
Residents of Staten Island pride themselves on being residents of New York City's "forgotten borough". Most residents of S.I. would like it kept that way. The folk there are descendants of Irish/Italian/Russian immigrants who were blue-collar workers like former NYPD officers and FDNY firemen. The borough has one train line, notorious Arthur Kill dump site, some farmland, and historically didn't welcome people of color (Black, Asian, or Hispanic). With surge of Russians, some African-Americans and Hispanics moved in. To OP - The Saint George area is "sketchy" and is just as a stop for S.I. Ferry. Few Italian-Americans there have links to organized crime family of neighboring New Jersey.
African-Americans and Hispanics living on island are treated as outsiders by Irish/Italian/Russian families steeped in history there. Staten Island doesn't get a bad rap like the Bronx. It's a unique borough where few outsiders are welcome. Producers and researchers of great "Copland" film conveyed this close-knit dynamic. I say Staten Island is nice place to visit, not comfy to live in.
This post is 100% nonsense and obviously written by someone who has never spent more than a few hours on SI.
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