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Old 01-15-2018, 04:26 AM
 
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De Blasio was finally forced to address the massive number of homeless in the subway.
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Old 01-16-2018, 11:11 PM
 
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This is a good thing. Whatever keeps them on the streets, whether not having any money, not knowing anyone who can help them, being to afraid to ask for help, an illness, substance abuse, or whatever else. People deserve a warm place to be in this cold.
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Old 01-16-2018, 11:35 PM
 
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shouldn't they have social workers do this instead?
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Old 01-18-2018, 08:17 AM
 
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shouldn't they have social workers do this instead?
When I used to do this work it was paraprofessionals supervised by social workers. We would also work alongside cops sometimes and go out together
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Old 01-19-2018, 03:24 PM
 
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I don't notice the effect. Still see at least one per day stinking up a whole subway car.

Need to re-open Creedmore mental health facility.
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Old 01-19-2018, 04:56 PM
 
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This is a good thing. Whatever keeps them on the streets, whether not having any money, not knowing anyone who can help them, being to afraid to ask for help, an illness, substance abuse, or whatever else. People deserve a warm place to be in this cold.
It's a nice thought, but my fear is it's not going to go very far. The people who are homeless due to circumstance tend to utilize the city's resources at hand. The overwhelming majority of the ones camped out in the subway are mentally ill and no amount of help is going to get them off those trains. The only reason other subways don't have this issue is they close at night. If they didn't they'd be just as bad, yes even in Europe.

That photo of the guy under the seats got everyone riled up about this issue. However, the reality is that people in their right mind, no matter how poor they are, wouldn't do that. He clearly was mentally ill. I know I sound cruel, but there's simply no legal solution to the issue. People have a right to live as free citizens even if they don't have the mental facilities to do so.
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Old 01-19-2018, 06:11 PM
 
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I saw my first homeless encapment (like the ones in LA) today in an open lot/median in South Ozone park. I was astonished! I hope this is not signs of things to come. Outdoor homeless camps may work in LA where it is mild year round. This is not the case in NYC. People will freeze to death. I hope someone is not that committed to living in NYC that they would put their life on the line like that.
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Old 01-20-2018, 01:01 PM
 
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years ago a homeless guy froze to death by pathmark. a group of them would camp near the parking lot.
once you are homeless its impossible to get back on your feet.
this program is going to fail.
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Old 01-20-2018, 06:55 PM
 
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It's a nice thought, but my fear is it's not going to go very far. The people who are homeless due to circumstance tend to utilize the city's resources at hand. The overwhelming majority of the ones camped out in the subway are mentally ill and no amount of help is going to get them off those trains. The only reason other subways don't have this issue is they close at night. If they didn't they'd be just as bad, yes even in Europe.

That photo of the guy under the seats got everyone riled up about this issue. However, the reality is that people in their right mind, no matter how poor they are, wouldn't do that. He clearly was mentally ill. I know I sound cruel, but there's simply no legal solution to the issue. People have a right to live as free citizens even if they don't have the mental facilities to do so.
Not if they are a threat to other people. Some of these mentally ill people can be dangerous to other people, or they can do stuff like urinate and defecate in public, even on the train. If they are suicidal or homicidal they have to be institutionalized.

Homeless people have pushed people on the tracks.

A number of homeless people do indeed get off the streets, with help from social services. Sometimes they are able to work things out with their families (yes, even those suffering from so called mental illness which is a broad and vague term).

If homeless numbers in the city get too big they frighten off tourists and people with money. So government intervention is definitely necessary.

As for the numbers of homeless, while there are homeless in Europe, nowhere near the levels of NYC and Los Angeles. Manilla, Phillipines is the world's homeless capital. NYC is number two, and Los Angeles is number 3.
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Old 01-20-2018, 06:56 PM
 
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years ago a homeless guy froze to death by pathmark. a group of them would camp near the parking lot.
once you are homeless its impossible to get back on your feet.
this program is going to fail.
This is completely false. Plenty of homeless people have gotten back on their feet.
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