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Old 11-12-2013, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Newark, NJ/BK
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For those of you really familiar with the school system, how would you rate the charter schools against public schools? Would you say that charter schools have truly been an example of well run schools or is it just a facade?
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Old 11-12-2013, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Pelham Parkway,The Bronx
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It's quite mixed.Some have been successful and some have been horrible and forced closed.
You can't generalize. Overall,I don't think the success rate is any better than public schools.Good corporate PR though.
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Old 11-12-2013, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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Charter schools are a slightly step up from public schools. Not much better. If you want better education for your children its either if you can afford 10k a year for parochial schools or 20k-40k for some private institutions. If you want to live in a neighborhood with good public schools, I advice you to check out Bayside in Queens, maybe the borough of Staten Island, Park Slope P.S 321 which is the poster child of gentrification fixing public schools!
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Old 11-12-2013, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Newark, NJ/BK
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It's quite mixed.Some have been successful and some have been horrible and forced closed.
You can't generalize. Overall,I don't think the success rate is any better than public schools.Good corporate PR though.
Absolutely. What prompted me to ask was watching a segment on the Melissa Harris Perry show about how charter schools have failed to live up to its hype & I've personally heard from a few people how better charter schools are.
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Old 11-12-2013, 11:04 AM
 
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Absolutely. What prompted me to ask was watching a segment on the Melissa Harris Perry show about how charter schools have failed to live up to its hype & I've personally heard from a few people how better charter schools are.
Some CSs complicate what is otherwise a very simple task.
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Old 11-12-2013, 11:09 AM
 
Location: New York City
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For those of you really familiar with the school system, how would you rate the charter schools against public schools? Would you say that charter schools have truly been an example of well run schools or is it just a facade?
impossible to make a blanket statement because every school is it's "own DOE", except for those with chains of schools like Success Academy. You have to look at the learning environment individually and assess results at specific schools.

The greatest benefit to Charters is getting out from under the boot of Union teachers which are the single biggest cause of failure in the public system. Without the Union rules, teachers are free to go the extra mile for their students, hours are not limited, and more curriculum is possible. Charters have the freedoms to be successful, it all comes down to how well they use that freedom
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Old 11-12-2013, 11:12 AM
 
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The greatest benefit to Charters is getting out from under the boot of Union teachers which are the single biggest cause of failure in the public system. Without the Union rules, teachers are free to go the extra mile for their students, hours are not limited, and more curriculum is possible. Charters have the freedoms to be successful, it all comes down to how well they use that freedom
I'm not a fan of the unions but the point that keeps sticking is that the top public schools in the suburbs like Basking Ridge and Jericho are all unionized and the people there are not calling their schools failures.
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Old 11-12-2013, 11:18 AM
 
Location: New York NY
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The secret to the good charters is all in the execution. They have the freedom to reinvent most of the rules and regulations, but if they use that freedom badly -- and as others have pointed out they sometime do -- they can achieve very little and be just as dysfunctional as the worst traditional public schools.
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Old 11-12-2013, 11:29 AM
 
Location: West Harlem
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It's quite mixed.Some have been successful and some have been horrible and forced closed.
You can't generalize. Overall,I don't think the success rate is any better than public schools.Good corporate PR though.
Agree - some are vastly better, some are terrible.
I am ideologically opposed to charter schools because I am opposed to privatization, but I must admit that some have proven to be quite good.
There is an interesting book published lately, case studies in New Orleans.
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Old 11-13-2013, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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Charter Schools were supposed to be the thin end of the wedge for the right wing to destroy the public school system. It hasn't worked out as expected.

Just another goofy but oh so common scheme to funnel public money into private hands.
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