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Old 12-08-2013, 01:36 PM
 
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thats my point. it really does not matter if her rent will be higher or lower. the first order of battle is the highest paying job she can get as that is key to anything else materializing.

the courts will have no choice but to evict her if she does not have a job .
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Old 12-08-2013, 02:09 PM
 
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If she went to court today, the judge would want proof of income. That's how the judge determines whether or not you can pay the rent. You have to show paycheck stubs that prove not only that you have a job, that your job pays you enough money to pay the rent in the future. Legally, with no income she has no ability to pay the future rent.

She's not going to court today. She has 2 months of living expenses according to her OP. Between now and then, she may just find a job that can pay the rent.
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Old 12-08-2013, 02:11 PM
 
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Thats a different story than you were arguing before .
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Old 12-08-2013, 02:17 PM
 
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don't let the facts get in the way of amisi's good story.

they filled in the blanks to that story so well to change the outcome and what was really posted . the issue is primarily about lack of money not succession rights.

ridiculous. the FACTS are:

She lived in the apartment for 33 years

She stopped working to care for her uncle

He passed away

She is now worried about losing her RC or RS apartment --- we aren't sure which it is because she says RC but then mentions a lease renewal.


More facts:

She has 2 months of living expenses

She has looked for work but hasn't found anything YET

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We DON'T know if she's tried to get public assistance. If there is a reason she cannot work, she can get public assistance which will be enough to pay her rent and utilities and food stamps for her to eat. If she is somehow disabled, she can get Social Security/Disability and she will be eligible for other subsidies and that will be enough to cover her rent, etc.

We DON'T know what kind of job she is looking for or what experience she has. If she cared for her sick Uncle for these past few years, she can likely get a job as a home health care aide or even as a matron for an ambulette company or a school bus company working with disabled children.

We DO know she will likely win her case in court for succession rights. She's lived there for 33 years with a blood relative. I've known people who've gotten succession rights living with a FRIEND for a lot less time than that and when the other person passed away, they were awarded succession rights through the courts.

Whatever it is, I wish her the best of luck in this and hope she'll come back and let us know how it worked out and what agencies helped her.
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Old 12-08-2013, 02:22 PM
 
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I PM'd you OP.
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Old 12-08-2013, 02:25 PM
 
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We DON'T know if she's tried to get public assistance. If there is a reason she cannot work, she can get public assistance which will be enough to pay her rent and utilities and food stamps for her to eat. If she is somehow disabled, she can get Social Security/Disability and she will be eligible for other subsidies and that will be enough to cover her rent, etc.

We DON'T know what kind of job she is looking for or what experience she has. If she cared for her sick Uncle for these past few years, she can likely get a job as a home health care aide or even as a matron for an ambulette company or a school bus company working with disabled children.

We DO know she will likely win her case in court for succession rights. She's lived there for 33 years with a blood relative. I've known people who've gotten succession rights living with a FRIEND for a lot less time than that and when the other person passed away, they were awarded succession rights through the courts.
I agree.
Not understanding why people advised her to give up, "rubber stamps" and all - this is simply misinformation.
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Old 12-08-2013, 02:26 PM
 
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thats my point. it really does not matter if her rent will be higher or lower. the first order of battle is the highest paying job she can get as that is key to anything else materializing.

the courts will have no choice but to evict her if she does not have a job .
But they will not be doing this right away, and there is no reason to think she cannot get a job - even if just any job.
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Old 12-08-2013, 02:29 PM
 
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ridiculous. the FACTS are:

She lived in the apartment for 33 years

She stopped working to care for her uncle

He passed away

She is now worried about losing her RC or RS apartment --- we aren't sure which it is because she says RC but then mentions a lease renewal.


More facts:

She has 2 months of living expenses

She has looked for work but hasn't found anything YET

---------------------------------------------------------------------

We DON'T know if she's tried to get public assistance. If there is a reason she cannot work, she can get public assistance which will be enough to pay her rent and utilities and food stamps for her to eat. If she is somehow disabled, she can get Social Security/Disability and she will be eligible for other subsidies and that will be enough to cover her rent, etc.

We DON'T know what kind of job she is looking for or what experience she has. If she cared for her sick Uncle for these past few years, she can likely get a job as a home health care aide or even as a matron for an ambulette company or a school bus company working with disabled children.

We DO know she will likely win her case in court for succession rights. She's lived there for 33 years with a blood relative. I've known people who've gotten succession rights living with a FRIEND for a lot less time than that and when the other person passed away, they were awarded succession rights through the courts.

Whatever it is, I wish her the best of luck in this and hope she'll come back and let us know how it worked out and what agencies helped her.
We do know if she tried public assistance. She said so. In order to get HRA One Shot deals, you have to ALREADY have a JOB and she said she was told that in the OP for social assistance.

In order to get SSI, that can take years if she doesn't already have it, and that's IF she has a disability.


DHS - Prevention - Rent Issues

"Rental Arrears Grants for Single Adults and Families
The New York City Human Resources Administration (HRA) can assist tenants who have legal possession of an apartment, or applicants who have been evicted but whose landlords are willing to continue renting the apartment, by paying their arrears through a rental arrears grant. Grants are available for Public Assistance recipients and for those people ineligible for Public Assistance. Families and single adults are eligible."

She has to have LEGAL possession of the apartment in order to get ANY HELP from the CITY with RENT.

She currently does not have legal possession, so welfare cannot help her. She likely won't get succession rights as she currently has no means to pay the rent.

She'd best be served by getting a job, if she can, within two months.
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Old 12-08-2013, 02:31 PM
 
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But they will not be doing this right away, and there is no reason to think she cannot get a job - even if just any job.
Again, there's also no reason to think that a 50+ year old woman living with her uncle is going to be terribly successful with getting a job, either. She hasn't financially supported herself. She was a caretaker to her uncle, meaning it was his money paying for the place and everything.

The truth is, we don't know if she can get a job in two months or not. There's a good chance she may end up homeless, and she may wish to explore all possibilities.

She won't just need a JOB, it will have to be enough to cover her RENT.
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Old 12-08-2013, 02:33 PM
 
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But they will not be doing this right away, and there is no reason to think she cannot get a job - even if just any job.
Simple question then? Why has she not been able to get a job then?

There certainly is reason to think she cannot get a job. Her words not mine.
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