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From Cypress Hills to Brookdale hospital is a breather, meaning it's not far away. Your only issue will be traveling into sketchy areas, East New York and Brownsville. It can be uncomfortable if one is not conditioned or use to certain environments. The hospital is located in one of those "Oasis" areas in bad neighborhoods Seventhfloor (I believe) made a thread about. Quite close to Remsen Village and Canarsie.
Cypress Hills is in a decent centralized position (believe it or not) if you are planning to visit the Rockaways and visit the beach, shop in Queens BLVD or Austin Street, if you planning to take air transportation often (an airport is nearby), or if you planning to visit 'hip' areas in northwest Brooklyn or the LES, visit the Barclays and shop in DTBK or waste money at a casino in Ozone Park.
Now, is Cypress Hills better than Ridgewood, Forest Hills, Williamsburg, Prospect Heights or Howard Beach... the answer would be no. Is Cypress Hills as dangerous and gloomy as East New York or Brownsville, the answer would be no. Does Cypress Hills have potential in the not to distant future, the answer is yes. If we have folks from all over the U.S and the world who are moving into areas like Bed Stuy and Bushwick, which are worst in many cases (if not the same), then why not CH. One don't know what the future holds, eventually it will happen. Cypress Hills with the right tenants and some good investing and policing can become like Windsor Terrace or Ridgewood.
I'm not trying to sell anyone Cypress Hills but I am giving an honest answer for what I believe, know and forecasting for the future.
Bronxguyanese, I see what you mean. Prior when discussing on hear where Lincoln Hospital was and areas to live in the Bronx it was explained to me it was in the South Bronx and that we didn't want to live in Mott Haven or surrounding areas for the time being. Then it was recommended we live in a few of the good areas of the Bronx and from the suggestions I focused our search on Pelham Parkway. It has around a 30 minute commute to the hospital and is also where many of the staff at the hospital live. The other area that we learned they eventually moved to live was in upper Manhattan below the 105 St. They didn't specify East or West and I haven't really looked into that area much. Do you have a Transplant neighborhood in mind?
Henna, you're on the money with some of your points. Though in a developing country poverty is rampant which is part of the reason for the uprising, and I did stay in some of the slums at times, but we didn't have access to guns to keep under our beds. The men of the neighborhood took shifts in groups with baseball bats to defend their homes and families in the neighborhood from the looters and thugs. To be certain are you saying Cypress Hills fits the description of what you're saying and this is why it's better not to live there or are you referencing Brownsville? If it's the later rest assured we don't intend to live in Brownsville but we can't avoid having to commute to work there if it comes to it. If it's Cypress Hills then from the NYT article you linked on it I can't help but agree and nod my head with much of what is written in it because it sounds like a good fit for us as a couple. The intention of my original post was to seek any information on where people who have to work at Brookdale Hospital live and what routes they take to commute. If that be in other areas of Brooklyn or elsewhere please advise.
ShadowMassa sorry I missed your prior post and thank you for your local perspective on CH. I believe it was you I was referencing in the CH thread that won me over with the google street view links of the homes and your perspective along with the original posters perspective which is similar to our situation. I didn't intend to make this another CH thread and I appreciate your honesty. I was looking for what are good places to live be it buying, renting, and commuting to Brookdale hospital and would one of those places be CH. I thank you and the others so much for answering my questions about the commute from CH and elsewhere. I really like your insight on the area. The housing prices are also attractive to us in the area. I'm attracted to places with potential and will be in a position with the means for home improvement. Also direct flights back to his home country are the main reason I believe he wants to live in NYC. We have two homes between here and there and have been going back and forth crossing the ocean to stay for months at a time for nearly the past decade. Flying from the East coast would be some much easier than flying from the West coast.
Bronxguyanese, I see what you mean. Prior when discussing on hear where Lincoln Hospital was and areas to live in the Bronx it was explained to me it was in the South Bronx and that we didn't want to live in Mott Haven or surrounding areas for the time being. Then it was recommended we live in a few of the good areas of the Bronx and from the suggestions I focused our search on Pelham Parkway. It has around a 30 minute commute to the hospital and is also where many of the staff at the hospital live. The other area that we learned they eventually moved to live was in upper Manhattan below the 105 St. They didn't specify East or West and I haven't really looked into that area much. Do you have a Transplant neighborhood in mind?
Henna, you're on the money with some of your points. Though in a developing country poverty is rampant which is part of the reason for the uprising, and I did stay in some of the slums at times, but we didn't have access to guns to keep under our beds. The men of the neighborhood took shifts in groups with baseball bats to defend their homes and families in the neighborhood from the looters and thugs. To be certain are you saying Cypress Hills fits the description of what you're saying and this is why it's better not to live there or are you referencing Brownsville? If it's the later rest assured we don't intend to live in Brownsville but we can't avoid having to commute to work there if it comes to it. If it's Cypress Hills then from the NYT article you linked on it I can't help but agree and nod my head with much of what is written in it because it sounds like a good fit for us as a couple. The intention of my original post was to seek any information on where people who have to work at Brookdale Hospital live and what routes they take to commute. If that be in other areas of Brooklyn or elsewhere please advise.
ShadowMassa sorry I missed your prior post and thank you for your local perspective on CH. I believe it was you I was referencing in the CH thread that won me over with the google street view links of the homes and your perspective along with the original posters perspective which is similar to our situation. I didn't intend to make this another CH thread and I appreciate your honesty. I was looking for what are good places to live be it buying, renting, and commuting to Brookdale hospital and would one of those places be CH. I thank you and the others so much for answering my questions about the commute from CH and elsewhere. I really like your insight on the area. The housing prices are also attractive to us in the area. I'm attracted to places with potential and will be in a position with the means for home improvement. Also direct flights back to his home country are the main reason I believe he wants to live in NYC. We have two homes between here and there and have been going back and forth crossing the ocean to stay for months at a time for nearly the past decade. Flying from the East coast would be some much easier than flying from the West coast.
I haven't been to Cypress Hills so can't comment. My line of work in the past has brought me into contact with some of the residents of the poorer areas of the city and the behavior I see by people who weren't raised well can really be atrocious. (Please understand I don't mean everyone who is poor acts badly; I am talking only about poor people who weren't brought up properly.) Also I've seen some really terrible behavior on the subways (not sure where any of them live) but I do know I would do anything to avoid living in a building or a neighborhood where people don't understand basic human decency. A ten minute subway ride is enough. Can't imagine having them live above me or next to me.
I'm just saying is that it's hard to anticipate or understand this behavior and mindset if you've never been around it. Also I'm saying that coming in fresh from out of state and buying a house in a "transitional" neighborhood may not be the best idea until you know what the pitfalls are. I probably don't have anything extra to add to this thread as those areas of Brooklyn are not my expertise.
You need to get your mind into a NEW YORK CITY MINDSET and out of where you live now or in the past. First most people do not live in single family stand alone houses. Second most people take public transportation not private cars. If you are not willing to accept this or desire to do this then my suggestion is don't even look at anything in New York City. It is a different animal and frankly not for everyone. You can be very worldly but if you do not "get" New York City and from what I have read here you don't then you really don't want to come here. You will be eaten alive
I haven't been to Cypress Hills so can't comment...I probably don't have anything extra to add to this thread as those areas of Brooklyn are not my expertise.
Its would kind of be like taking the worst section of Corona and picking it up and placing it right next to the worst ghetto in the city.
bilmin perhaps help me get in that NYC mindset then by answering where do most people live and what routes do they take? As I asked prior is it unreasonable to keep the car in this area and commute as public transportation in the area has been mentioned in other threads on here to be spotty and risky near the hospital. We're no strangers to public transportation either. If you don't have the answers to my questions that's fine too. I appreciate the world of caution about the predators of ZooYork.
Don't worry too much about working in Brownsville. Your husband working there does not mean that you should live there. If he is a resident at Brookdale, it is best for him to drive to work and the hospital most likely will provide free parking for its medical staff. There are multiple affordable and safe areas to live within 20 min drive to/from the hospital. You can easily find a small 2-br for around $1,500/mon in Midwood, Sheepshead Bay, parts of Ditmas Park, or even further west in Bensonhurst/Dyker Heights. And remember to live as further west of Flatbush Avenue as possible. Remember that your husband will likely rise early to go to work and come home either very late or very early depending on his call schedule, and the advantage of working odd hospital schedules is that you avoid the traffic automatically.
By the way, Dyker Heights/Bay Ridge are becoming increasingly middle eastern, which you couple will blend in well to the white/middle east mixture. The safety around the Brookdale hospital area should be of very little concern for your husband because he is minimally exposed to that area, unless he enjoys walking around the hospital but he probably won't have time to do it anyway. A lot of doctors have been working in that area for decades without any incidents. NYC is a lot scarier in books or media than in reality.
Its would kind of be like taking the worst section of Corona and picking it up and placing it right next to the worst ghetto in the city.
I would also say CH shares similarities to nearby Bushwick, I dare say in many locations less alarming too.
One must remember CH is not a large sized neighborhood, it's very narrow. North to south the neighborhood is about 3-4 blocks, east to west it's about 5 subway stops. The only main annoyances I had in this neighborhood was individuals asking for favors or swipes on the train station.
There was a hit and run that happened sometime in the dark hours in CH which made it on local news, but a similar incident in nearby Woodhaven a week or so back made the news too.
I will say Cypress Hills and City Line (my boundaries of City Line are south of Atlantic and north of the Conduit) are the better looking parts of the entire community board 5. Less infill on the north side of East Brooklyn too.
bilmin perhaps help me get in that NYC mindset then by answering where do most people live and what routes do they take? As I asked prior is it unreasonable to keep the car in this area and commute as public transportation in the area has been mentioned in other threads on here to be spotty and risky near the hospital. We're no strangers to public transportation either. If you don't have the answers to my questions that's fine too. I appreciate the world of caution about the predators of ZooYork.
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Take a look at www.hopstop.com--- it is a website that calculates the best public transportation options
from one point in the city to another (both bus and subway).
The address of the hospital is 1 Brookdale Plaza, brooklyn
Just as an example use 28 Schermerhorn Street as your starting address... that is in Brooklyn Heights
a very nice area of brownstone apartments.... play with that and get comfortable--- it also tells you
the walking distance on both ends.
Once you start looking at areas and look on Googlemaps you can view the areas then you just change' the starting location. Make sure to also change the date and time of the trip as a 7am Monday
trip will come out different than a 8am Sunday trip.
Let us know what you think. While it clearly not the nicest part of town I think the safety concerns
are not as bad as some might state unless you are talking about 3am ... I have had some clients in that general area and I have never really felt unsafe during the day or early evening.
On the other hand I would not want to take a car into that area unless I had covered parking somewhere guarded
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