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Old 01-17-2014, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Between the Bays
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Don't now much about the Bronx, so won't know anything about melrose. Was it like LIC where they developed on empty land?
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Old 01-17-2014, 05:01 PM
 
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It was a residential community which was hard hit by the arson of the 70s. It languished like most lower income nabes until the 90s when it was slated for total gentrification...the community fought to stay and geared all development towards the benefit of the community...and thus NYC's 1st mixed income, affordable community was born...and set the standard across the city and country on how to successfully implement mixed income developments and communities. It is also where NYC's green movement was honed and developed into large buildings, like this one just completed last year:

http://viaverdenyc.com/
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Old 01-17-2014, 06:06 PM
 
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.and thus NYC's 1st mixed income, affordable community was born...and set the standard across the city and country on how to successfully implement mixed income developments and communities. It is also where NYC's green movement was honed and developed into large buildings, like this one just completed last year:

Via Verde
How can Via Verde claim to be a mixed income community when majority of the units are restricted to renters who make a percentage of the Bronx median income, which is low by NYC standards? Effectively it excludes HHs who make 50K or higher and a huge swath of the NYC middle class as well as the wealthy. And I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of HHs living there actually earn $30K meaning they are bordering poverty levels.
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Old 01-17-2014, 06:53 PM
 
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I think there is confusion about the definition of HH median incomes...I had the same concern. The new development "La Central" for example said it is using 30% to 100% of the AMI (adjusted median income)...however the areas HH median income is less than $25,000...so using 30% to 100% of that would mean the homeless and destitute. But that is not the case, somehow they are defining AMI as $80,000 for a family of 4, and $60,000 for a single person..stated in the RFP.

As for Via Verde, the rentals were for moderate/lower income residents, which is the tower portion, the other portion was the co-ops for purchase, and they targeted the higher income residents = mixed income.
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Old 01-17-2014, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Between the Bays
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It was a residential community which was hard hit by the arson of the 70s. It languished like most lower income nabes until the 90s when it was slated for total gentrification...the community fought to stay and geared all development towards the benefit of the community...
What makes you think it was slated for total gentrification?
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Old 01-18-2014, 08:36 AM
 
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Mayor Koch in the 80s decided to raze the remaining area and remove the existing residents for new development not aimed towards them. The community fought back and Melrose became the beacon of affordable mixed income living.
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Old 01-18-2014, 08:00 PM
 
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^ That hardly means the area was slated for gentrification. Probably just couldn't persuade any newcomers to move into the area at the time.
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Old 01-18-2014, 08:15 PM
 
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New comers seem to target 'affordable' (in their terms) or popular areas. Even neighborhoods nearby the hot spots get some spill over eventually. Also safety is a consideration, but Bed Stuy and Bushwick are not all that safe, but not as dangerous and gloomy as East New York or Brownsville. However, Bushwick and Bed Stuy are soaring in terms of popularity. That being said, Brownsville-East New York and the South Bronx are non of that right now. As for the southern Bronx, it's far from the current hotspots at the moment. Are their notable amount of new comers (yupsters, hipsters, transplants, ect) in the south Bronx at the moment ? Driving around the other day from Mott Haven to Kingsbridge I didn't notice any. It's quite notable driving around Bushwick and Bed Stuy for instance.
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Old 01-19-2014, 08:36 AM
 
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G-Dale...I already answered your question. Koch slated the area for gentrification...it was a known fact and the residents/businesses were to be removed....which is why the community fought back. Had zero to do with whether you believe anyone would live there...the city made it's decision and it was to move forward with it.

Shadwomassa...when you are driving around looking for "newcomers" (as the signature of a "hot spot")..what is it that you are looking for? Or rather who is it that you are looking for that is so prevalent in Bushwich/BedStuy but not the Southern Bronx?
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Old 01-19-2014, 09:49 AM
 
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You notice diversity in Bushwick and Bed Stuy now where in the past it wasn't really there. And this doesn't just mean white people. There is more diversity amongst the black and hispanic populations within themselves. Maybe you don't see that in the south Bronx yet.

I don't think a politician has an area slated for gentrification. Maybe they see the potential, but they can't force it.
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