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thank you! i couldn't have said it better myself. i was born in harlem almost 50 yrs. ago & i've seen many changes in harlem. my first address was on e. 123rd st. i thought it was e. 124th st. but that was my 2nd address! i moved upstate w/my husband (hate it) and i'm moving back to EH Spring of '09 God willing. i remember when i was a kid we use to go to the dentist on E. 125th st by the metro north. i remember as a little kid seeing addicts shooting up & asking my older sister what they were doing & she said "taking their medicine", i kid you not. i'm taking in the early 1970's. i also remember seeing prostitutes with johns doing the nasty in abandoded door ways....so for everyone here reading my post HARLEM USA has come a very, very long way, both East Harlem & West Harlem. i think for many people who post the negative comments about Harlem, well, they're writing about what the media puts out. some guy on this post put a video from youtube on here. it's a video where these dudes are acting. yeah, is it rough in some spots, heck yeah but then again it's an urban environment. before i moved upstate i lived on e. 28th street & they were more prostitutes on park ave. then there were clients at the wee hours of the morning when i was catching the 6 train. and in my little sleeply town here in the hudson valley, we have the highest drug trafficking. 2 yrs ago an entire family was murdered, all drug related.
f**K that harlem aint really that bad if u walk around anywhere in brooklyn or queens bronx it dont matta its all bad there all da same it ain bout racial thoughts or it bad because of the blacks spanish it dnt matta it about how the people grew up 2 be wich seems to most ghettos so not only is it bad but there all low lifes think it not on color it just life
Well, the "barrios" area has been called Spanish Harlem for a very long time.
I spent 10 days in NY a couple of months ago by myself, and spent one afternoon in Central Harlem just walking around and shooting pics of architecture and points of interest. I remember thinking later on that I was one of only a handful of whites the whole time I was there, but I found it more interesting than intimidating. The streets were clean enough, and I enjoyed the simpler design of the old buildings.
However, my inner senses did give me an alert. I had planned on returning later that night for The Apollo, and "something" told me not to attempt it alone at night. So I didn't.
if you don't mind me asking...what makes it a bad area?
I think it's better than a lot of strips in the area, but still a lot of vacant/burnt/dilapidated buildings, lots of people begging, drug addicts galore near Lex, and proximity to many housing projects make it not great.
Well, the "barrios" area has been called Spanish Harlem for a very long time.
I spent 10 days in NY a couple of months ago by myself, and spent one afternoon in Central Harlem just walking around and shooting pics of architecture and points of interest. I remember thinking later on that I was one of only a handful of whites the whole time I was there, but I found it more interesting than intimidating. The streets were clean enough, and I enjoyed the simpler design of the old buildings.
However, my inner senses did give me an alert. I had planned on returning later that night for The Apollo, and "something" told me not to attempt it alone at night. So I didn't.
Well, that is really Central Harlem or "Black Harlem", no Spanish Harlem/East Harlem.
I think it's better than a lot of strips in the area, but still a lot of vacant/burnt/dilapidated buildings, lots of people begging, drug addicts galore near Lex, and proximity to many housing projects make it not great.
Maybe this is where my definition of "bad" differs from most people. I don't care if there are junkies, or burnt out buildings, or a guy smoking a blunt standing in front of my house...I just care about violence. Am I going to get robbed. Am I going to get jumped. Am I going to have to worry about walking 6 blocks from the train to my house at night wearing a suit?
Maybe this is where my definition of "bad" differs from most people. I don't care if there are junkies, or burnt out buildings, or a guy smoking a blunt standing in front of my house...I just care about violence. Am I going to get robbed. Am I going to get jumped. Am I going to have to worry about walking 6 blocks from the train to my house at night wearing a suit?
Most of the robberies are committed by junkies,how else are they going to support their habit? You just contradicted yourself.
Maybe this is where my definition of "bad" differs from most people. I don't care if there are junkies, or burnt out buildings, or a guy smoking a blunt standing in front of my house...I just care about violence. Am I going to get robbed. Am I going to get jumped. Am I going to have to worry about walking 6 blocks from the train to my house at night wearing a suit?
I beg to differ. You should care if there are junkies. The heroin addicts I don't mind as much, but the crackheads can be violent and will steal anything you can't bolt down. Take it from me. I had my apt. ransacked by crackheads and prtetty much lost everything. Don't be naive. When they are using or need a hit, they will do anything they can do to get it, believe that.
How about 103, between park and lex. is it safer over there?
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