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There goes the 'hood. The reverse trend is, the rich will all move to the city, and the poor to the suburbs. Paris was actually designed with these demographics in mind.
There goes the 'hood. The reverse trend is, the rich will all move to the city, and the poor to the suburbs. Paris was actually designed with these demographics in mind.
Not exactly.
Paris was redesigned for several reasons one of which was to allow more efficient movement of troops into and around the city. This was in response to the frequent and almost predictable revolutions that occurred.
The other reason was to literally clean up the dark, dank, damp, vermin infested, twisted and otherwise unhealthy medieval Paris. We're some "poor" displaced? Of course, but many that remained enjoyed a cleaner and safer city than that came before. Haussmann's renovation of Paris - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
There were and still are places for the "poor" in Paris. Though like NYC, London and other great urban areas supply is dwindling as more and more "wealthy" persons flock to these areas pushing up real estate prices.
The Marais district for instance was largely ignored until the 1990's, now it has become one of the hottest and trendy parts of Paris.
To be fair, those brownstones were built for the upper middle class. I don't think the poor should be prohibited from living in them, but Brooklyn is merely returning to its past wealth and glory. Nothing wrong or unnatural about that.
To be fair, those brownstones were built for the upper middle class. I don't think the poor should be prohibited from living in them, but Brooklyn is merely returning to its past wealth and glory. Nothing wrong or unnatural about that.
The middle class of the past were in a much better position to own their own home in NYC. Today's middle class really has it much harder in today's NYC real estate market. Prices of homes to salary have priced the middle class out of the market.
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The middle class of the past were in a much better position to own their own home in NYC. Today's middle class really has it much harder in today's NYC real estate market. Prices of homes to salary have priced the middle class out of the market.
The population was a lot smaller then, so demand was lower. The problem is that we have restricted new development instead of allowing density to increase with population the way we did in the pre-war period. For a while, that was made up by people leaving the city for the suburbs, but that was at best a temporary solution.
we had it made in brooklyn back in the days. no one
knew how drastic it would change and how expensive
it would become. now it's time for a lot of us to find
somewhere else to live. it's not as affordable as it
used to be thanks to some people.
As someone who was forced to move out my bedstuy community, due to gentrification it is disgusting. It is not like shouting at the rain. Bedstuy was already established. It had bones to work with. They didn't gentrify a vacant lot sweethearts, they're gentrifying an entire community with a rich history. Civil rights activism, leaders, actors, producers, rappers, lawyers and many other great people with an amazing legacy started right here, in bedstuy. It's a diamond in the rough with a mixed history, as is other neighborhoods that are predominantly poor.
No one is upset with hipsters. Gentrification happens and it ****ing sucks for those of us who are actually affected and not on some ****ing forum speculating about preferring gunshots to plaid shirt. It's more than that.
A community isn't owned by the people who live there. It's owned by the property owners (in so far as they're not the same people.) In the end it will be what they want it to be.
As someone who was forced to move out my bedstuy community, due to gentrification it is disgusting. It is not like shouting at the rain. Bedstuy was already established. It had bones to work with. They didn't gentrify a vacant lot sweethearts, they're gentrifying an entire community with a rich history. Civil rights activism, leaders, actors, producers, rappers, lawyers and many other great people with an amazing legacy started right here, in bedstuy. It's a diamond in the rough with a mixed history, as is other neighborhoods that are predominantly poor.
No one is upset with hipsters. Gentrification happens and it ****ing sucks for those of us who are actually affected and not on some ****ing forum speculating about preferring gunshots to plaid shirt. It's more than that.
Funny how you conveniently mention all the so-called good stuff about bed stuy but failed to mention all the shootings, gang members, crackheads, drug dealers and hustlers that defined bed stuy.
This is why I LOVE gentrification...it displaces ghetto a$$ people that either made it ghetto or contributed to its ghettoness.
I see gentrification as a GHETTO CLEANSER. I love it! As a result bed stuy is becoming more civilized and a much safer place to live. More work needs to be done but it's on the right path. Bravo!
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