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Old 02-14-2014, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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I've been noticing a lot of the school buses here in the city don't use those tire chains on the rear tires like what they put on the MTA buses. Anyone know what that's about or is it just the city not wanting to pay for it?
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Old 02-14-2014, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Sunnyside
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I don't even know why they need to use chains on the MTA buses. Unless there's going to be a couple feet of snow dropping in a couple of hours, there's no need for it. Everything driving around with chains is just scraping the chains on the cement anyways.

We're not up in the mountains where there's snow piling on top of snow, piling on top of snow so that the chains need to dig in to the hard packed snow to gain traction.
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Old 02-14-2014, 11:35 AM
 
Location: new yawk zoo
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I don't even know why they need to use chains on the MTA buses. Unless there's going to be a couple feet of snow dropping in a couple of hours, there's no need for it. Everything driving around with chains is just scraping the chains on the cement anyways.

We're not up in the mountains where there's snow piling on top of snow, piling on top of snow so that the chains need to dig in to the hard packed snow to gain traction.
last Monday, I saw the express bus burning rubber....nice stinky smell for us walkers.
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Old 02-14-2014, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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I don't even know why they need to use chains on the MTA buses. Unless there's going to be a couple feet of snow dropping in a couple of hours, there's no need for it. Everything driving around with chains is just scraping the chains on the cement anyways.

We're not up in the mountains where there's snow piling on top of snow, piling on top of snow so that the chains need to dig in to the hard packed snow to gain traction.
They get stuck without the chains. I've seen it.
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Old 02-14-2014, 12:02 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Tire chains are bad for the roads and NYC has enough of a pothole problem chains will make more potholes.
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Old 02-14-2014, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Pelham Parkway,The Bronx
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I don't even know why they need to use chains on the MTA buses. Unless there's going to be a couple feet of snow dropping in a couple of hours, there's no need for it. Everything driving around with chains is just scraping the chains on the cement anyways.

We're not up in the mountains where there's snow piling on top of snow, piling on top of snow so that the chains need to dig in to the hard packed snow to gain traction.
A few years ago there was a biggish snowstorm and a lot of busses got stranded and had to be abandoned and then towed away. People(and the media) went berserk complaining that the busses were out without chains.

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Old 02-14-2014, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Pelham Parkway,The Bronx
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I've been noticing a lot of the school buses here in the city don't use those tire chains on the rear tires like what they put on the MTA buses. Anyone know what that's about or is it just the city not wanting to pay for it?
I think the school bus companies are independently owned.They are under contract to the city to provide a service but neither the city nor the MTA have any control over whether they use chains.
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Old 02-14-2014, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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I think the school bus companies are independently owned.They are under contract to the city to provide a service but neither the city nor the MTA have any control over whether they use chains.
I'm sure something could be worked out contractually to equip buses with chains.

I only brought up mta as a comparison. I know MTA has nothing to do with school buses.
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Old 02-14-2014, 12:47 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Chains rip up the road, they are illegal for the public but I've been seeing more and more of them on city vehicles (garbage trucks & city buses). School buses are run by private companies and are not allowed to have them
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Old 02-14-2014, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Sunnyside
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A few years ago there was a biggish snowstorm and a lot of busses got stranded and had to be abandoned and then towed away. People(and the media) went berserk complaining that the busses were out without chains.
Yes, that storm would have warranted the use of chains as there was feet of snow, not inches of snow. To put chains on when the forecast is 2-10 inches of snow is completely ridiculous. To put on chains when the forecast is 2-3 feet of snow is little bit more reasonable.

I remember last year it snowed maybe an inch or two and I saw garbage trucks with chains on the tires plowing a tiny bit of slush on the road.
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