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Old 02-20-2014, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Between the Bays
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At least we'll have WiFi on our subways before they do.
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Old 02-20-2014, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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Here, they have two providers offering so called "gigaspeeds" and then Google Fiber is supposed to be coming. I personally don't really care, though I probably will switch to AT&T since TWC is merging with Comcast.
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Old 02-20-2014, 12:26 PM
 
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At least we'll have WiFi on our subways before they do.
Yes, we "will", lol. it is finally catching up with the korean and japnese subway systems in terms of wifi access.
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Old 02-20-2014, 12:36 PM
 
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Who needs more than 10 Mbps, which is more than good enough for streaming high definition video without buffering.
Will 1 Gbps help us type faster or make the streamed movies more interesting? Will our e-mail arrive even before it's written?

Too expensive for Google Fiber to wire New York? Verizon manages to do it. Is Google not as competent?
Verizon of course already had a previous network in place. It was merely replacing old wiring, so its easier to get permission for something like this.

Google probably decided it was better to wire up easier to wire cities first and then go after NYC later.

Kind of like certain retailers in the past 60 years became big national retailers before going after the NYC market. Companies like Home Depot, Trader Joes, Whole Foods, Starbucks were all big in other places before they decided to take on the NY market.
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Old 02-20-2014, 12:38 PM
 
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Yes, we "will", lol. it is finally catching up with the korean and japnese subway systems in terms of wifi access.
Ah, and belatedly the MTA is deploying CBTC on other subway lines besides the L. The 7 is the next line to get CBTC (this work is being done now) and so is the Queens Boulevard line (this work is being done now).
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Old 02-20-2014, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Who needs more than 10 Mbps, which is more than good enough for streaming high definition video without buffering.
Will 1 Gbps help us type faster or make the streamed movies more interesting? Will our e-mail arrive even before it's written?

Too expensive for Google Fiber to wire New York? Verizon manages to do it. Is Google not as competent?
Verizon makes their money as a content delivery network provider. Remind me again how does Google make money providing high speed internet? Oh that's right, ads. I think they can get ads to your phone / computer without tearing up sidewalks in NYC and putting wires in so while it IS worth the cost to Verizon, it's simply NOT worth the cost for Google.
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Old 02-20-2014, 12:55 PM
 
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In 10 years time when Google finally finishes laying out it's fiber network it will be yesterday's technology. We will be looking at Gbps Wifi by that time.
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Old 02-20-2014, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Westchester, NY
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In 10 years time when Google finally finishes laying out it's fiber network it will be yesterday's technology. We will be looking at Gbps Wifi by that time.
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Old 02-20-2014, 02:30 PM
 
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The problem with NYC here is that doing infrastructure work is so much more complicated and expensive. Everything is underground, and no one (like Verizon) is going to let Google use their conduits, so they have to dig up streets and lay their own. Then they have to get landlords and coop/condo boards to give permission to wire buildings (and then they have to wire the buildings.) Only then can they actually offer service to the end users.

In more suburban areas you just run the fiber on the poles (which seem to work like a common asset, since they carry electric, cable, and phone), and when someone signs up, pull the cable to the house.

In the 'burbs they got Fios way before the city, just for this reason. Everyone in the city likes the density, but sometimes it works against us.

I think you got it. You must have been reading my notes at my last meeting with Verizon on this very matter.
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Old 02-20-2014, 02:33 PM
 
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Who needs more than 10 Mbps, which is more than good enough for streaming high definition video without buffering.
Will 1 Gbps help us type faster or make the streamed movies more interesting? Will our e-mail arrive even before it's written?

Too expensive for Google Fiber to wire New York? Verizon manages to do it. Is Google not as competent?

The size of the Verizon FIOS footprint has been very limited until recently. For a lot of reasons there is a big push now but the majority of the city is still waiting for fiber optics and will have to wait a lot longer.
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