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Wakefield is nowhere near the most expensive real estate in metro NYC.
The reason why there's such defensiveness on this topic is because people know I'm right.
For somebody who likes to position themselves as a high-minded and intelligent person, you are quite dense in the head. The reason things boiled over had nothing to do with real estate prices, it was your statement that there was something about our culture that made Caribbean people not keep their homes well-kept compared to white citizens. If you had focused on class, your statement would've had some credibility, but you chose to go an entirely different route & you couldn't handle being called out for the lack of intelligence and insulting nature of the comments you wrote.
Some of you clearly have never been to Long Island or the nicer parts of NJ and the nicer parts of Westchester if you think Wakefield's an attractive neighborhood. For that matter, some of you clearly haven't been to nicer areas of NYC proper if you think Wakefield is attractive.
Stop trying to hide behind race. It's not an attractive or particularly desirable neighborhood. If that's where some of you want to live, that's fine. I'm not attacking that.
I just gave some reasons it isn't gentrifying.
72 and Broadway in Manhattan is definitely safer than White Plains Road. Shootouts are a lot less rare in the UWS than in WPR. You don't see bunches of thugged out men hanging out on the corner on 72nd and Broadway like you might on WPR.
Personally don't find wakefield attractive but it's far from a bad area overall.
Nor do I think it's a possible gentrification target. For one it's been a stable low middle class to middle class area for a long while now. It will maybe become more diverse over time but West Indians have a strong foothold there with many homeowners so I don't see it happening quickly at least.
I've been around. I've visited Long Island and Westchester. Totally different. Wakefield is an urban, high density neighborhood vs. the more suburban Westchester and Long Island. The area doesn't need any gentrification. And I'm almost certain the local population doesn't care if there's a starbucks on every corner. I'd rather buy a delicious patty from a local restaurant than some chain coffee. Same goes for Latin food. Two things I miss here in Texas (though I have Starbucks everywhere).
I've been around. I've visited Long Island and Westchester. Totally different. Wakefield is an urban, high density neighborhood vs. the more suburban Westchester and Long Island. The area doesn't need any gentrification. And I'm almost certain the local population doesn't care if there's a starbucks on every corner. I'd rather buy a delicious patty from a local restaurant than some chain coffee. Same goes for Latin food. Two things I miss here in Texas (though I have Starbucks everywhere).
Whether the area needed gentrification or not isn't what was asked. The OP was asking why it doesn't get gentrification. And again, I gave some reasons why. The area's a bit run down and not kept up well. And parts of it really are pretty ghetto (Edenwald projects) and some areas nearby are also pretty ghetto (Gunhill, Allerton and the projects near them).
So if someone thinks this is a good area they are willfully blind!
Whether the area needed gentrification or not isn't what was asked. The OP was asking why it doesn't get gentrification. And again, I gave some reasons why. The area's a bit run down and not kept up well. And parts of it really are pretty ghetto (Edenwald projects) and some areas nearby are also pretty ghetto (Gunhill, Allerton and the projects near them).
In NyC that would not be a barrier to gentrification. I do think it's location and the fact it already has many middle class homeowners are real barriers.
In NyC that would not be a barrier to gentrification. I do think it's location and the fact it already has many middle class homeowners are real barriers.
In NyC that would not be a barrier to gentrification. I do think it's location and the fact it already has many middle class homeowners are real barriers.
Yes, its far from any job center. That's the primary reason. However, being run down and predominately Black do deter white buyers. Let's face it. Not many whites would want to buy a home and be one of the few whites in a run down Black neighborhood. Now if it was much closer to some place important, investors would buy the homes and other properties, renovate, and sell. But it isn't.
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