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I think Kingsbridge got great potential. Others on this site will say otherwise and point you towards Pelham, Riverdale and Woodlawn which have large white populations. I prefer diversity and a community that is a bit more open minded. The prices are low enough to jump on at the moment. The other areas mentioned aren't so affordable. The proximity to Riverdale will help it in the long run only. Some will say West of Broadway is better for Kingsbridge. It is to a degree but it depends specifically on location. I have seen some posters mention crime but I never ever had an issue all my yrs living here. (Remember, a lot of areas with crime became hot RE today). The 50 precinct is one of the safest in the city and in the Bronx, you can look up the stats yourself. Don't believe everyone because many have an agenda and never set foot in this area.
Agreed, one of the many reasons why I also believe that in the future the neighborhood may get some spill over with more fortunate tenants or attract people from other areas into the neighborhood. Thus, which can determine higher or more investment into the area. And to add, the area doesn't look bad at all from a visual perspective! At least not in my opinion. Kingsbridge didn't appear dangerous to me or even alarmed me, believe me I've been in worst neighborhoods where you feel alarmed rather quickly.
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I prefer the Van Cortland Village area. It's near lots of public transportation, Lehman, Parks, Bronx Science, High School of American Studies at Lehman College (top in NY state), Manhattan college, etc. A lot of developers are starting to develop the Broadway area. New shops are coming up. The 1 train is one of the cleanest and safest in the City. It takes you 25 min to get to midtown during rushhour. Hop on the 1 train and get off at 242nd. Take a look at the demographics and the way ppl carry themselves. You can clearly see a shift in the remaining population after 207th. You will see what I see! You got easy access to the 87 and GW. You got a few great pubs, SS Cheescake store, etc. The area could use more small coffee shops rather the Starbucks. I think in time, ppl will open up some as there is a great opportunity for such. If you look at a map, development is going all the up to Getty Square in Yonkers. What were once blighted areas are turning into prime locations. I think there is a bigger, broader push to develop the area from Inwood, Marble Hills, to Yonkers. You can see the influx of new ppl (singles and families alike).
Van Cortland Village is a very attractive! I was 'lost' there once and I am glad it happened. I never really knew much about the area until that day, it's a well hidden gem. It's a tree-line neighborhood with good housing stock and clean. Back to Kingsbridge, I personally believe it will be one of the first areas in the Bronx to redevelop and change rapidly. As you stated, it's due to location and what it has to offer. It's not an visually ugly area at all! KB is still quite affordable.
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The thing is folks got to make an effort like these other nabes at improving their areas. Set up meetings with the local precinct, start neigborhood watch progams, install video cams at key hotspots, report broken street lamps, etc. If folks do this much, the area will only go up significanly regardless of the ppl's color who live there.
Agreed, it all begins with a community that cares.
Kingsbridge is a fine area. Being surrounded by riverdale, van cordtlandt village, and inwood will continue to push it to get better and better. Rents around there right now are higher than what you can find if you go a little east towards the concourse from norwood to mott haven. Also interesting is the strip around sedgewick ave west of the jerome resevoir. While far from the train, this area has some beautiful single and multi family houses. Unlike some of the poorer areas of the bronx, kingsbridge has a lot of good shopping options on broadway. You have the shopping center with target and a brand new shopping mall on broadway / 230. Easy access to yonkers / westchester for shopping via the major deegan and henry hudson highways.
Subway access from kingsbridge is good but the 1 train is a bit limited. Its a local train and it only covers the west side of manhattan. Going to east harlem and the upper east side of manhattan is a chore.
The grand concourse areas have the best subway access in the bronx, the BD and 4 trains which service east and west manhattan along with west harlem and the uws. These areas are bit more rough though.
My favorite part is also van cordtlandt village. Its very pretty there.
I am seriously planning having Kingsbridge on my personal list. I'd probably spend a lot more time in Van Cortland Park, the Cloisters and Yonkers Casino. What street are Kingsbridge eastern and southern borders ?
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If I was a bachelor I would have bought an apartment at 1020 Grand Concourse aka the White House.
If you can get a 2 bedroom, perhaps it is something to still consider. How old is that building btw ? The Concourse-Bedford Park zone is another Bronx area with very high potential.
There is nothing "disturbing" about it at all. It's an Irish/Irish-American dominated neighborhood and has been for years with some Italians and Germans thrown in the mix. I'm sorry but not every neighborhood needs to be "diverse" and go the entire gamut of the ethnic rainbow. There are plenty of diverse neighborhoods all over NYC and there are also plenty of ethnic non-diverse neighborhoods. The neighborhood isn't suffering from drugs and crime, and is clean and safe and unlike most areas of the Bronx isn't on the decline. Katonah Avenue is a lively charming commercial strip with tons of pubs and other small businesses dedicated to the local Irish, Irish-American and Italian American residents. It's disturbing that you're disturbed by such a nice neighborhood just because it isn't as diverse as you think it should be.
If a white person was uncomfortable in an all black neighborhood would you find that "disturbing" as well?
I see no reason why anyone should feel disturbed in a neighborhood if the people living there are friendly, not racist, and purposely mistreat and show blatent prejudice towards people of another ethnic background.
If you comprehend what I wrote no where did I mention that every neighborhood has to be diverse. I specically mentioned that it is a disturbance for one to feel uncomfortable and/or bothered by residents in that area because they are not of the same ethnicity.
I WOULD find it disturbing if a white person feels uncomfortable in an all black neighborhood. I do not see a reason why a white/black/ latino/ asian person should expect to feel uncomfortable in any neighborhood whether Black/White/Asian/Latino, as long as the people in that neighborhood are friendly, not racist, and do not purposely mistreat and show blatent prejudice the individual(s)
I see no reason why anyone should feel disturbed in a neighborhood if the people living there are friendly, not racist, and purposely mistreat and show blatent prejudice towards people of another ethnic background.
If you comprehend what I wrote no where did I mention that every neighborhood has to be diverse. I specically mentioned that it is a disturbance for one to feel uncomfortable and/or bothered by residents in that area because they are not of the same ethnicity.
I WOULD find it disturbing if a white person feels uncomfortable in an all black neighborhood. I do not see a reason why a white/black/ latino/ asian person should expect to feel uncomfortable in any neighborhood whether Black/White/Asian/Latino, as long as the people in that neighborhood are friendly, not racist, and do not purposely mistreat and show blatent prejudice the individual(s)
Well we don't live in a utopia, so I don't know what to tell you. It doesn't have to be blatant racism either. It could be that the neighborhood has a heavy immigrant population where English isn't the primary language spoken. That could make some people feel uncomfortable too. You can't please everybody. Aside from that New York has always had its ethnic neighborhoods.
I see no reason why anyone should feel disturbed in a neighborhood if the people living there are friendly, not racist, and purposely mistreat and show blatent prejudice towards people of another ethnic background.
If you comprehend what I wrote no where did I mention that every neighborhood has to be diverse. I specically mentioned that it is a disturbance for one to feel uncomfortable and/or bothered by residents in that area because they are not of the same ethnicity.
I WOULD find it disturbing if a white person feels uncomfortable in an all black neighborhood. I do not see a reason why a white/black/ latino/ asian person should expect to feel uncomfortable in any neighborhood whether Black/White/Asian/Latino, as long as the people in that neighborhood are friendly, not racist, and do not purposely mistreat and show blatent prejudice the individual(s)
I don't see why either but if someone has a problem with my family's presence, move. I live where I want as long as I can afford it.
shadow massa--Kingsbridge is Irwin Ave on the west, south of W 240th, north of W 230th and Bailey Ave on the east. Kingsbridge Hts is east of Bailey Ave to about Jerome Avenue on the E, Ft Independence St or Giles Pl on the W. and W Kingsbridge Rd on the S. Rougher than Kingsbridge but still OK.
I don't see why either but if someone has a problem with my family's presence, move. I live where I want as long as I can afford it.
Agreed
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