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APVBGUY..I dont expect anyone to do anything. It is a free country and everyone can live wherever they choose, for the most part.
Furthermore, I understand the draw of the suburbs..they serve their purpose and provide a COMPLETELY different lifestyle than what is offered in the city. However, the discussion is not about moving people from 2 manicured acres, 5 bedroom, 3 bath house, with inground pool and cabanas into the Bronx...although I am sure someone has done it. The discussion is about those already living in the city, like Mead, who claims that if the projects could be guranteed 25% white and offered cheaply...that white people would move in (that is his assertion based on him moving in under those conditions).
Of course I disagree because the Bronx is already at rock bottom prices and yet very few are choosing to move there...so clearly there is more to it than pricing. So I acknowledge the challenges the Bronx faces, as it is now more of a class issue..with race being somewhat secondary. However, I see the Bronx, and most areas of the city revitalizing, and middle/working class people CHOOSING to stay..rather than flee as they once did...as housing and amenities are now targeting them.
Whether this will ultimately maintain the middle class from fleeing to "greener" pastures has yet to be seen..but the changes that are occurring in places like the Bronx are specifically targeted to the working/middle class....so only time will tell.
Lol....I agreee DAS..but thats an easy remedy...the magic of 311! I have used it several times and the cops ALWAYS shut them down..and its anonymous...easy as pie.
APVBGUY..I dont expect anyone to do anything. It is a free country and everyone can live wherever they choose, for the most part.
Furthermore, I understand the draw of the suburbs..they serve their purpose and provide a COMPLETELY different lifestyle than what is offered in the city. However, the discussion is not about moving people from 2 manicured acres, 5 bedroom, 3 bath house, with inground pool and cabanas into the Bronx...although I am sure someone has done it. The discussion is about those already living in the city, like Mead, who claims that if the projects could be guranteed 25% white and offered cheaply...that white people would move in (that is his assertion based on him moving in under those conditions).
Of course I disagree because the Bronx is already at rock bottom prices and yet very few are choosing to move there...so clearly there is more to it than pricing. So I acknowledge the challenges the Bronx faces, as it is now more of a class issue..with race being somewhat secondary. However, I see the Bronx, and most areas of the city revitalizing, and middle/working class people CHOOSING to stay..rather than flee as they once did...as housing and amenities are now targeting them.
Whether this will ultimately maintain the middle class from fleeing to "greener" pastures has yet to be seen..but the changes that are occurring in places like the Bronx are specifically targeted to the working/middle class....so only time will tell.
Yes it's true, there are housing projects in NYC being closed, the tenants being pushed and relocated to other housing projects, and then renovated into co-ops, condos, and high cost apartments.
Take for example the former Vanderveer projects near Flatbush/Nostrand Junction, where tenants were moved out, the place was renovated, and turned into what's now called Brooklyn Gardens!
Another example is in Howard houses in Brownsville where one of the buildings was converted into condo as a "test" to see the success of doing such a thing.
I'm sure there are other examples around the city.
do you know how much of that building in howard houses are occupied by homeowners? has it made a difference in the bldg?
From...Curbed: CurbedWire: Making Room for Karl Fischer on W. 13, Public Housing 'Transitioning' (http://curbed.com/archives/2008/04/21/curbedwire_making_room_for_karl_fischer_on_w_13_pu blic_housing_transitioning.php - broken link)
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EVERYWHERE—Sometimes half the fun of writing city government is seeing what kind of form e-mail comes back. Are reader writes: "I wrote the Mayor a letter (an email) via the NYC.gov website regarding my concerns about the housing projects. I expressed my opinion about the obvious drain on resources, and the less than stellar results of this program...I asked whether they have ever considered selling off some, or turning them into co-ops, or something similar. I received a letter a few weeks later indicating that the city is pursuing a number of options regarding housing projects, and that there are some test developments converting to ownership. Go to the website and send an email to the Mayor detailing the same sorts of questions regarding the housing projects. In a few weeks, you will receive the same, or similar, letter, with a list of the housing projects that are now in transition."
I hear persistent rumors about the housing projects being closed, not just in the Bronx but throughout the city also....residents being forced to leave..or that they are moving towards some sort of ownership in some way (co-op/condo). Can anyone confirm or deny any of these rumors?
They seem to persist and I would like an answer once and for all. With housing in high demand, it is hard to believe that the housing projects would close. However I would believe that the housing projects are moving towards a co-op/condo style, or meet stricter guidelines for residents (and those that cannot meet them would be forced to leave.)
Any help?
Yes, start with calling NYCHA and get the facts from them
Cyrus...how funny! I am the one that posted that comment on another thread about the housing projects being converted...and somehow it ended up on curbed. And for the record, the story is true...I just need to find the letter!
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