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I see plenty of people on the train, ferry, and bus commuting to both blue collar and service jobs. I've also taken the LIRR numerous times, and have encountered the same.
They are suppose to live 30 miles away and take a 9 hr train ride.
Let me see. 2 hours to work, 2 hours from work, and they will need to raise their kids. Commuting costs through the roof. Because people will soon all have to move to Philly at this rate.
I foresee the wealthy wailing that people are "lazy" because they can no longer find any one to take their kids to the park or to wipe their mother every time she messes her adult diaper!
Imagine the sight of those wealthy socialites with their pearl jewelry walking their kids in the park, and removing the feces from their ageing mother!
I see plenty of people on the train, ferry, and bus commuting to both blue collar and service jobs. I've also taken the LIRR numerous times, and have encountered the same.
And when you have three times the numbers what then? As it is even Long Island now has an affordability problem.
Except that some one must do lower paid work, unless you plan to collect your own garbage, and don't go to restaurants, or plan to access healthcare or education.
The wealthy are very high users of low paid workers. Who is going to staff their door men buildings?
So where are all these people supposed to live?
Man listen. You keep using the some old excuse that low paid workers are needed in order to justify to keep them around. Don't worry about that. I guarantee you there will be no shortage of low wage workers whether they have to travel longer distances or not there will be no shortage. Next!
His name is Louis XVI, he is royalty..he does not want peasants living in Manhattan...It's uncivilized...
the problem is that he wants peasants to wash his dishes and bathe his kids, and will cry when all the peasants have fled down South, as many are now threatening to do. For many people the NY dream is ended and they are out of here, these being the very lower mid and working class people who every civilized society needs to function.
When Louis XVI goes to the theater, who does he think is going to be the usher?
Because people will soon all have to move to Philly at this rate.
Good, let them move. They'd probably be better off there than here. You either adapt to change or you get steam rolled over. But the bottom line is no one is entitled to live in any particular place. You live where you can afford.
Long commutes (2 hours) are taxing and even dangerous. What does a parent do when he gets an urgent call that his kid is dangerously ill and that he must deal with that situation? a daily commute from Philly or the PA Poconos isn't going to cut it.
The outer boroughs are already full. Its a fallacy to say that middle class people priced out of Brooklyn and Upper Manhattan can be easily accommodated there. The inner suburban ring is also occupied, and transportation links aren't the best.
Good, let them move. They'd probably be better off there than here. You either adapt to change or you get steam rolled over. But the bottom line is no one is entitled to live in any particular place. You live where you can afford.
Great. Now when you need someone to repair one of your buildings, where will you find them? Will you be willing to pay top dollar for the few who will remain when the many are forced out to live in PA?
Snarky tone aside the article in OP's linked post is rather correct.
Related and others participating in these various 80/20 or other tax abatement schemes that provide "affordable" and or " low" income housing aren't losing a penny on the deal. The losers are those paying inflated market rates for their units to subsidize those "affordable" units.
Article is also correct in saying what most everyone even remotely involved in NYC real estate knows as well as NYS and City government, much of the problem in the City with housing is caused by New York's on policies which often are at odds with each other.
Vast swaths of NYC are still zoned for low density housing, are part of landmark or historical districts and or have other restrictions that make development expensive or not even possible. If or when someone wants to go ahead with building anyway the arcane and byzantine system of laws, rules and so forth makes it very expensive. Now of course to obtain any zoning variances de Blasio and the City are going to demand 30% "affordable" component in the name of "inclusion".
Nearly 60% of NYC rental housing falls under some sort of price control regulation. But yet NYC has had a "housing emergency" situation for >50 years. So the City's and state's answer is to create *more* regulated housing which still won't be enough and further interferes in how a healthy housing market should operate.
In the meantime the focus on the poor and lower income is driving out the very persons NYC needs, stable middle class/income households. They are being priced out by the wealthy on one end and very little housing that is "affordable" for them is being created.
In summation the article states what is simple common sense. For many persons their income will *NEVER* allow them to live in NYC without vast amounts of subsidizes
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