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The disparities will not disappear by giving Blacks and Latinos an extra boost. Liberals will always have a difficult time explaining the success of Asian Americans, despite many coming from poor backgrounds. Even many of the illegal Chinese from the Fujian province are able to get their kids into specialized high schools, and I wouldn't argue that they are a very selective group of Chinese who chose to immigrate here.
The New York Post article itself says that Asians have the highest poverty rate out of all the cities major races. So it would appear their educational achievements are not preventing that from happening. And if 73% of a specialized public high school is Asian, clearly the city and the state are going to rebalance that not just for Blacks and Hispanics, but for whites as well. The article actually suggests that the revised criteria would help more people out from affluent backgrounds, those who do things like study abroad, volunteer, and other things and activities that more well to do people do.
That's because Asians are considered overrepresented in schools, colleges, education, & academia, & institutions seek to look for diversity & balance, & wanting to give other groups an advantage. Also legacy status may play a role too in some cases!
I believe that using class as a criteria could be helpful, as those in poverty should be encouraged to break the cycle of poverty & to give them a piece of the pie.
I think class is an overlooked factor & probably more important than "race"
The disparities will not disappear by giving Blacks and Latinos an extra boost. Liberals will always have a difficult time explaining the success of Asian Americans, despite many coming from poor backgrounds. Even many of the illegal Chinese from the Fujian province are able to get their kids into specialized high schools, and I wouldn't argue that they are a very selective group of Chinese who chose to immigrate here.
I think class & social class & socioeconomics is the factor that people should pay attention to! Classism is the crux of the issue!
Technically speaking, the concept of race has no meaning. You could line up the entire world population from the blondest, straightest hair, whitest-skinned person to the blackest, kinkiest hair, darkest skin person and no one could put a finger on where one "race" begins and another ends. "Race" is a sociopolitical term used to maintain one "race's" financial superiority over another. "Race" is what the "majority" uses against the "minority".
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As an African-American baby-boomer and 60+ year long resident of Los Angeles, it's unconscionable for liberals to insist on affirmative action exceptions to get minorities into academic powerhouses such as St. Johns or NYU, as well as schools out west including Stanford & UCLA, where some 40% of the freshmen classes year after year going back at least two decades are composed of Asians.
There is simply no 'perfect number' of any kind which determines what the 'proper' or 'appropriate' percentage of minorities is for anything from university admissions to neighborhood ethnic mixes, although liberals always insist that such is the case but never reveal what those percentages are.
Asians have always stressed ambition and getting a top-notch education, and never fell for the 'victimhood' mantra espoused by the Democrats for several decades, at least since LBJ's war on poverty.
After what out government did to them in the early 1940s by sending them into concentration camps by the thousands, they certainly were 'victims' of a very narrow-minded racist policy, but they NEVER followed that path to self-destruction that followers of liberal leaders such as Sharpton & Jackson have been peddling for decades.
Small wonder that Walter E. Williams called them 'poverty pimps' many years ago, as accurate of a description as possible of them as well as Holder, Obama, Conyers, Dingell, 'Kerosene Maxine' Waters (great line from Larry Elder) and many other race-baiting politicians who could really care less about the little guy, starting with our President and his corrupt Attorney General, clearly the worst such combination in our nation's history.
As an African-American baby-boomer and 60+ year long resident of Los Angeles, it's unconscionable for liberals to insist on affirmative action exceptions to get minorities into academic powerhouses such as St. Johns or NYU, as well as schools out west including Stanford & UCLA, where some 40% of the freshmen classes year after year going back at least two decades are composed of Asians.
There is simply no 'perfect number' of any kind which determines what the 'proper' or 'appropriate' percentage of minorities is for anything from university admissions to neighborhood ethnic mixes, although liberals always insist that such is the case but never reveal what those percentages are.
Asians have always stressed ambition and getting a top-notch education, and never fell for the 'victimhood' mantra espoused by the Democrats for several decades, at least since LBJ's war on poverty.
After what out government did to them in the early 1940s by sending them into concentration camps by the thousands, they certainly were 'victims' of a very narrow-minded racist policy, but they NEVER followed that path to self-destruction that followers of liberal leaders such as Sharpton & Jackson have been peddling for decades.
Small wonder that Walter E. Williams called them 'poverty pimps' many years ago, as accurate of a description as possible of them as well as Holder, Obama, Conyers, Dingell, 'Kerosene Maxine' Waters (great line from Larry Elder) and many other race-baiting politicians who could really care less about the little guy, starting with our President and his corrupt Attorney General, clearly the worst such combination in our nation's history.
Holder and Obama are not race baiting, and both men have substantial European ancestry, something which is lost on right wing racists such as yourself (whatever your race is).
You claim that AAs need education, well Obama and Holder are clearly educated. But an education isn't what you're really interested in, is it?
Btw, Asians predominately have been voting democratic, in part because the Democratic party has been much friendlier on immigration than the Republicans. Ditto Hispanic.
Stop claiming to be interested in education when all you are really interested in is slavish adherence to right wing ideology.
And tell the truth, is there an organization of right wingers that pays people to post propaganda online?
I think class & social class & socioeconomics is the factor that people should pay attention to! Classism is the crux of the issue!
Technically speaking, the concept of race has no meaning. You could line up the entire world population from the blondest, straightest hair, whitest-skinned person to the blackest, kinkiest hair, darkest skin person and no one could put a finger on where one "race" begins and another ends. "Race" is a sociopolitical term used to maintain one "race's" financial superiority over another. "Race" is what the "majority" uses against the "minority".
If we pay attention to socioeconomic status then it will likely benefit poor Asians over poor Blacks or Latinos, not much different than the current system. Many Asian immigrants are poor yet are able to maintain safe neighborhoods with kids who will make it to the middle class.
I wouldn't say that race has no meaning. Race is a broader category of basic genetic clusters in our human population. Other factors are involved such as culture, geographic distribution, etc.
If we pay attention to socioeconomic status then it will likely benefit poor Asians over poor Blacks or Latinos, not much different than the current system. Many Asian immigrants are poor yet are able to maintain safe neighborhoods with kids who will make it to the middle class.
I wouldn't say that race has no meaning. Race is a broader category of basic genetic clusters in our human population. Other factors are involved such as culture, geographic distribution, etc.
Not all poor Asians make it to the middle class, and again, there is Asian organized crime.
Why do racists like you ignore this?
And not all poor Blacks or criminals or dangerous. Why do racists like you imply otherwise?
So what is this obsession with trying to claim all crime is committed by Blacks and to a lesser degree Latinos?
Please tell me what's really going on.
Crime rates are lower among Asians than among any other race in this country, and that is a fact. Does that mean they don't commit any crime? Of course not!
I'm talking about averages, and the differences are pretty clear. Poor Asian communities are safer than poor Black or Latino communities. Schools are better and standardized test scores are higher. The disparities are pretty clear.
Prostitution and drug crimes are not always a huge deal as I take a more libertarian stance on those issues. I care about violent crime rates. Can these crimes cause problems though? Of course.
I don't know how Russians were brought into this. It seems that most are Russian Jews. Organized crime among Russians and Albanians can be a problem, though less so than crime problems in neighborhoods like East New York.
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