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Old 08-09-2014, 10:25 PM
 
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Amtrak for awhile ran trains out of GCT but was forced by the federal government IIRC to consolidate their operations into NYP.
Amtrak decided there was no need to operate two stations in NYC, Grand Central is a terminal, so there is no through traffic. The Empire Connection permits through traffic through Penn Station.
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since the New York Central RR and Pennsylvania Railroad were in direct competition for most of their existence (until they finally merged ) there shouldn't be a way for trains to get from each other's ROW as neither RR would be using the other's terminal/station
One of the strategic failures of federal planning, but understandable in the days of robber barons.
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there was a time when RR's were all over NYC. Before trucking took over
AFAIK, the only former railroad line in Manhattan was the High Line. Look at the 1900 map.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_fr...nd_Long_Island
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Old 08-09-2014, 10:53 PM
 
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Amtrak decided there was no need to operate two stations in NYC, Grand Central is a terminal, so there is no through traffic. The Empire Connection permits through traffic through Penn Station.

One of the strategic failures of federal planning, but understandable in the days of robber barons.

AFAIK, the only former railroad line in Manhattan was the High Line. Look at the 1900 map.
Rail freight transportation in New York City and Long Island - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Besides the aforementioned Park Avenue ROW (that once ran all the way down to Bowery and up through Harlem), NYC is larger than Manhattan.

You have abandoned ROWs all over Brooklyn and Queens including the old LIRR that some are trying to make the next "High Line".

Supposedly there is a tunnel somewhere in Brooklyn (long ago abandoned and supposedly sealed but if you know where and how...) that an ancient (by now) locomotive was walled up in part of before the thing was abandoned.

On Staten Island of course we have the long abandoned ROW of the North Shore branch of the SIRR. A good part of that ROW and infrastructure is still around.

This does not include the various abandoned subway and street car tunnels and or stations.
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