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Old 08-10-2014, 03:50 PM
 
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Same time but it would add to the total capacity, more people would ditch their cars, esp if excise was raised significantly.
I was referring to excise on cars themselves
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Old 08-10-2014, 03:52 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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If we can't wean the borough off of its gass guzzling SUV addiction and get more transit-oriented, high-density development going, that might not be the worst idea.

In its present state, the borough does not do a major, cosmopolitan city proud.
Then you and I are in agreement because I don't have any use for pretentious fools who seek to force others to live the way they want them to. So do we have your support next time we vote 3/4 for secession from this "world class" city?
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Old 08-10-2014, 03:54 PM
 
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Then you and I are in agreement because I don't have any use for pretentious fools who seek to force others to live the way they want them to. So do we have your support next time we vote 3/4 for secession from this "world class" city?
Failing honest attempts to make things more sustainable and creative-friendly, then yes.
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Old 08-10-2014, 03:55 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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The whole city needs a huge expansion of the subway, not just Staten Island. How about we expand to the more feasible areas first, then worry about Staten Island. The easiest solution would be to cut Staten Island out of NYC, end the free ferry, and all MTA NYC bus service on the Island, including the highly subsidized express busses. People are already leaving SI, this will greatly speed up the process. When land prices drop drastically as a result, it would be feasible for the city to then both extend subway to the Island and buy the necessary land to build a decent subway on the island. Of course, seeing as the MTA can barely manage the 7 extension and the 2nd ave subway, this will never happen.
Sounds like a plan! And we'll keep the MTA's cash-cow, the VZ, what with the toll plaza being on SI and all.
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Old 08-10-2014, 04:04 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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Failing honest attempts to make things more sustainable and creative-friendly, then yes.
The fatal flaw in your facetiously comedic scorched earth campaign is that Staten Island is much more of a financial player in the city than lofty hipster urbanites tend to comprehend. While we weren't allowed to leave when we overwhelmingly voted for it (again, due to our financial stability), we don't get bullied around in the least when it comes to city policy decisions, especially in regards to being left alone. With a higher median income than Manhattan, and a net positive tax contribution to the city, our small delegation to the council and state legislature actually wields clout. After all, someone has to hold steady seats with all the blue-area representatives being arrested and sent to prison constantly.
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Old 08-10-2014, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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The fatal flaw in your facetiously comedic scorched earth campaign is that Staten Island is much more of a financial player in the city than lofty hipster urbanites tend to comprehend. While we weren't allowed to leave when we overwhelmingly voted for it (again, due to our financial stability), we don't get bullied around in the least when it comes to city policy decisions, especially in regards to being left alone. With a higher median income than Manhattan, and a net positive tax contribution to the city, our small delegation to the council and state legislature actually wields clout. After all, someone has to hold steady seats with all the blue-area representatives being arrested and sent to prison constantly.
I had to rep you here my friend. I sure hope Staten Island can remain a bastion of the NYC middle class.
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Old 08-10-2014, 04:38 PM
 
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I had to rep you here my friend. I sure hope Staten Island can remain a bastion of the NYC middle class.
Thank you. As long as fools like this aren't allowed to control the city forever, we should be fine.
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Old 08-10-2014, 04:41 PM
 
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Sounds like a plan! And we'll keep the MTA's cash-cow, the VZ, what with the toll plaza being on SI and all.
Sorry, the MTA is a state agency, so they keep it regardless.
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Old 08-10-2014, 04:48 PM
 
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Sorry, the MTA is a state agency, so they keep it regardless.
I know that, but apparently the person who I was quoting doesn't because he mentioned taking MTA bus service from SI. I'm perfectly in agreement with that, as long as we keep the toll.
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Old 08-10-2014, 05:39 PM
 
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Ummmmm...There sure are a lot of people driving Escalades and Navigators in that "middle class area".
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