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Italians are very family orientated and also tend to prefer living with or around others of their own kind. Nothing bad about this but it explains why you find so many Italian-American families historically in places like South Brooklyn, "Italian Harlem", Staten Island (even before the Bridge was built) etc....
Rising housing prices on SI have caused many younger generation Italian-Americans to move off the Rock. First to NJ but now PA, NC and even Florida. However everyone tends to come "home" for the holidays as witnessed by the heavy traffic on the NJ bridges on for Christmas Eve (a *VERY* big Italian American holiday). At some point often the older generation to be near their children or grandchildren follow, especially the widows.
When the film "Moonstruck" came out a group of friends from the Rock (some of who were Italian Americans) all went to see. Everyone kept saying "that's Aunt "X" or "that is uncle "Y"" because characters reminded them of their own New York Italian American families. For myself I saw it in an instant. How all the action takes place in the kitchen even though the Castorni's had that large house. How the family settled their business "indoors" etc...
A lot of what killed the image of Italian Americans on the Rock was the idolization on both television and film of "Godfathers' and the "mob". Suddenly everyone wanted to be (or thought they were) not only Italian but made men. Mind you most weren't anything of the sort and wouldn't know a MM if he pissed on them because they were fire. But still
Move to Staten Island if you wish to seek out Italian Americans, but don't do so with blinders on because you'll soon have your eyes opened for you my friend.
As with any other ethnic groups IAs come in all flavours and you'll find them on the Rock. Some are liberal, others conservative. You have social liberals who take persons (gay, straight, black, white, etc.... ) as they find them, others every other word is "moulinyans" this or "dirty" Latinos/Hispanics, gays this and so forth. They talk about the North Shore as if it were one large sewer of crime and degenerates but yet when the same crimes (drugs, guns, etc.... ) happen on the South Shore all you get are crickets chirping.
Especially read the comments on various article, again you will have your eyes opened for you my friend. Those are your future neighbors and friends.
Well, let's be realistic: Most of the crime on S/I, that you read off in the newspapers happens in the North Shore.......the crime in the South Shore is very little....there are people from the North Shore coming to the South Shore to sell drugs to the kids here......
I take offense to your interpretation that the above skits are representative of all the people living in the South Shore of Staten Island.
The Sopranos is representative of low-class, uneducated people, so are the people that watched it, and made it a hit. The South Shore has myriad of educated people, many of them attorneys, physicians, and engineers. Too bad that we do not have many Staten Islanders on C/D that can corroborate the innuendos of people here that know very little about S/I....
I didn't bother reaponding to those videos because I didn't want to lend credence to the message they send, but I agree with you fully.
Well, let's be realistic: Most of the crime on S/I, that you read off in the naewspapers happens in the North Shore.......the crime in the South Shore is very little....there are people from the North Shore coming to the South Shore to sell drugs to the kids here......
Obviously. The middle-upper class Italian kids in the South Shore (who usually think they're hardcore tough guys, but nonetheless) wouldn't know the first thing about procuring hard drugs. It's the poorer kids from the North Shore who have the access, and are more desperate (socioeconomically) to obtain funds by any means necessary. They take the bus/train/car ride down across the border (Expressway) and sell them to the kids here, whose unsuspecting parents all drive foreign luxury cars.
The biggest illegal racket here in the South Shore is kids buying and selling Nike sneakers to each-other without paying taxes, lol. We have the lowest crime in the city.
Obviously. The middle-upper class Italian kids in the South Shore (who usually think they're hardcore tough guys, but nonetheless) wouldn't know the first thing about procuring hard drugs. It's the poorer kids from the North Shore who have the access, and are more desperate (socioeconomically) to obtain funds by any means necessary. They take the bus/train/car ride down across the border (Expressway) and sell them to the kids here, whose unsuspecting parents all drive foreign luxury cars.
The biggest illegal racket here in the South Shore is kids buying and selling Nike sneakers to each-other without paying taxes, lol. We have the lowest crime in the city.
You are joking right?
Yes, parts of the SS have very low crime rates but that is not saying the place is some sort of make believe fairy land.
Also the idea that white/Italian-American kids and or anyone else is getting drugs exclusively from the "blacks" or just the North Shore is also laughable. Within the past few weeks there have been two or more arrests of persons selling scripts and or actual oxycodone (among other things) including a RN and this physician's assistant: http://www.justice.gov/usao/nys/pres...talArrests.php
Kid and adults from Todt Hill, South Shore etc... don't have to go to the NS to get their stuff. Just as back in the day there are local places and persons more than happy to supply.
Well, let's be realistic: Most of the crime on S/I, that you read off in the newspapers happens in the North Shore.......the crime in the South Shore is very little....there are people from the North Shore coming to the South Shore to sell drugs to the kids here......
I take offense to your interpretation that the above skits are representative of all the people living in the South Shore of Staten Island.
The Sopranos is representative of low-class, uneducated people, so are the people that watched it, and made it a hit. The South Shore has myriad of educated people, many of them attorneys, physicians, and engineers. Too bad that we do not have many Staten Islanders on C/D that can corroborate the innuendos of people here that know very little about S/I....
Was born and raised on SI not to mention home every other week or so, therefore please do not tell me who lives where.
No one ever said the majority of SS residents resemble those from the two videos but there are more, much more than enough in the mix. Everyone likes to point the finger and complain about negative Italian-American stereotypes but apples don't often fall far from their trees.
Gabriel: Staten Island has a diversity now of many nationalities, including lots of Hispanics, which by the way have been born in NYC, (the Puerto Ricans, which many are married to the Irish and Italians.) We have myriad of Mexicans working very diligently in the construction/landscaping business, and no one bothers them. You must be proud of who you are....
There is ONLY one group that it is not so much welcomed, and that it is not because of their color, but mostly because of their BEHAVIOR and CRIME propensity.
As the Italians would call them, "eggplants", obviously.
There aren't any in my neighborhood. Not because they can't afford the rent, but because I don't think they would feel comfortable here.
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