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Old 09-21-2014, 05:36 PM
 
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This is a topic where the simplification of politics has been used masterfully to polarize a subject which should be cut and dry.

As a staunch conservative on most matters, my personal belief is that corporations enjoy far too many protections under our laws; protections which should only be reserved for actual people. The safe conduct of business within (and even without) our borders is secured by the might and honor of the US military, which is mostly made up of lower-class young men who'd give anything to enjoy a few years of lives of those safely ensconced under the corporate protections afforded to them through amorphous companies created solely to protect monetary greed.
Now that is something can protest for
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Old 09-21-2014, 05:38 PM
 
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Your statements regarding the 2nd Amendment aren't far off from mine either.
What statements? You mean in another thread
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Old 09-21-2014, 05:40 PM
 
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Love the obtuse way you say they "provide" gasoline, as if it's something they're doing out of the kindness of their hearts, from a sense of public duty.

Yeah, I'd certainly be happy if some top executives at all kinds of companies were charged with some of their wrong-doings.
Another anti-capitalist kook.

Proctor and Gamble provides detergent, Ford provides cars, Apple provides computers, and GE provides light bulbs because there is demand for the product, and they make money. They also do not do it out of the goodness of their hearts.

Basic Economics 101. The capitalist system incentivizes people to provide a product that the masses want, with the intent of making as large a profit as possible. Get it?
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Old 09-21-2014, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Queens, NY
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Another anti-capitalist kook.

Proctor and Gamble provides detergent, Ford provides cars, Apple provides computers, and GE provides light bulbs because there is demand for the product, and they make money. They also do not do it out of the goodness of their hearts.

Basic Economics 101. The capitalist system incentivizes people to provide a product that the masses want, with the intent of making as large a profit as possible. Get it?
The problem is not profit. There is nothing wrong with making money by providing a useful good/service. The problem occurs when there is a ridiculous gap between those who profit and those who don't. You can say the "market" gets to decide the wage or workers, price of goods, etc., but truth is, at this point in time, the average worker does not get paid anywhere near those are the top. Yes, those at the top incur the the most "risk" (even though they themselves do no take responsibility for what the corporation does), but at what point is it just far too unbalanced?

Something they don't teach you in Econ 101: A capitalist economy only functions properly when as many people can participate in the market as possible (hence creating a market by definition). Wall Street is just one glaring example of how most people are now excluded from, quite literally, the market of money.

I end on a note from a TED talk from someone in the 1% himself:
Nick Hanauer: Beware, fellow plutocrats, the pitchforks are coming | Talk Video | TED.com
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Old 09-21-2014, 09:36 PM
 
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I think one of the biggest ironies of Occupy Wall Street is that the OWS crowd did and continues to use the public vestibule down at 60 Wall Street as their staging ground. They use the free bathrooms there open to the public. Sit there all day when it's cold / raining. Even ask the Wall Street employees for money. And the owners of this plaza that they allow the public to use? Deutsche Bank, the very people they protest.

But I guess they only want to protest against the parts that don't benefit them
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Old 09-21-2014, 09:39 PM
 
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I recycled too until the teethless Chinese ladies walking around with bamboo stick and trash bags on either side throw all of my trash they don't want all over the side walk.

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I can't do that. I try to recycle as much as possible including all of my plastic containers from take out. I save them, wash them out let them dry and then put them in the recycling bag. New York City esp. creates so much garbage from take out and other things that it isn't even funny. They should really enforce recycling more. There was a show on cable I watched a few years ago that opened my eyes to how much waste we create and what problems we will have in the near future if we don't start recycling more. I always recycled but now I make a conscious effort to recycle everything possible instead of just the usual items.
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Old 09-21-2014, 09:41 PM
 
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Occupy Wall Street and these current flood Wall Street idiots are the scum of the earth.
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Old 09-21-2014, 09:43 PM
 
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This is a topic where the simplification of politics has been used masterfully to polarize a subject which should be cut and dry.

As a staunch conservative on most matters, my personal belief is that corporations enjoy far too many protections under our laws; protections which should only be reserved for actual people. The safe conduct of business within (and even without) our borders is secured by the might and honor of the US military, which is mostly made up of lower-class young men who'd give anything to enjoy a few years of lives of those safely ensconced under the corporate protections afforded to them through amorphous companies created solely to protect monetary greed.
EXCELLENT POST, airborne!!!
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Old 09-21-2014, 10:47 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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Thank you.
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Old 09-22-2014, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Halethorphe, MD
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Pretty good turnout. Apparently I was on CNN for 20 seconds
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