Ebola watch in NYC (Kent, Brant: restaurant, storage, safety)
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The accuracy you claimed is largely based on misinformation or your incomplete understanding of the issues we are talking about. For instance, how many of us contract flu each year, and how many die from the flu virus (the death rate). And further, what kind of ppl tend to die from flu (the elderly, the sick, the immune compromised individuals like AIDS patients, and a handful of healthy brats who should seek medical care but due to over confidence in that they felt they could handle the virus load but in fact their immune system might be unknowingly compromised by some other ongoing health issues...).
I hope when you apply these two factors in assessing the danger imposed by ebola, you would gain some new perspectives...if not, look around you, how many docs/health care workers wear protective suits/masks when they treat flu patients? Does that hint at some thing to you? If you still don't get it, you need to go back to a better medical school to gain some fundamental medical knowledge.
Regarding HIV, are you seriously not afraid of contracting it? You probably should. Such reckless attitude towards such dangerous infectious agents among the population contributes to the epidemic status of this still incurable disease. Having courage is good, but reckless courage on the brink of a cliff leads to tragedy, as many of the sandy victims might have regretted if they were given a chance.
This post is a failure in more than one ways:
1. Instead of asking me what the flu stats are, why don't you look it up yourself? I have and they're nothing to look over casually. And just because only certain groups get affected by it doesn't mean one should give the flu its due attention.
2. The bolded is a poor attempt to personally insult me instead of just giving your opinion or information. I never studied in the medical field in the first place as is the case for many members posting on this thread.
3. Third paragraph is, once again, personal when I never made any personal claim on HIV. Nowhere did I say that people should not pay attention to HIV, I said HIV does not get a lot of attention especially compared to decades ago when it's still a health issue. Read carefully!
I applaud what some of the west african communities are doing here...being prudent is the key when facing uncertainty, good for them, and good for the ppl around them:
"In Providence, where the Liberian community claims 15,000 members, the Liberian Community Association of Rhode Island is raising money to rent an apartment or a house for people arriving from Liberia whose relatives are too afraid to take them in. One man who spoke at an association meeting last week said he would welcome someone who had been to Liberia into his home, but he would give the visitor separate dishes and silverware. Some said they would feel comfortable accepting guests. But Liberian community leader Daniel Gould said he just couldn’t do it.
“I’m a caring, loving person. All Liberians are,” he said. “But I can’t take that chance.”
While it's good to be aware of what's going on (not to the point of being paranoid though) the flu, measles, AIDS, cancer, heart disease and even depression claim a lot of victims also. I'm curious as to why, all of the sudden, it's blown up all over the news (right before the start of flu season btw) since Ebola has been a threat to the US ever since early this year when it started spreading in West Africa.
It was inevitable someone would bring it to America and Europe due daily flights across the globe so it's interesting people are acting shocked when for a good part of this year someone with it could have shown up at a hospital with it in a major city.
Something also which is doing more harm than good are incorrect stories from the 24/7 news networks which spread like wildfire on social media until they're propagated as the truth. Some networks IMO are going for ratings grabs and racing to be the first to break "breaking news" without fact checking or even accuracy checking.
Those nurses btw weren't wearing the right protective gear for the first 2 days after coming into contact with Duncan and used "whatever they had" Another botch up from that Dallas hospital but it's good to hear the first nurse Nina Pham is recovering.
She got on a plane from Dallas to Cleveland even though she was not supposed to go on any public transportation then she got on a plane from Cleveland back to Dallas with a temp of 99.9 because it was below the mysterious "threshold" of 100.4. Next morning she went over the 100.4 and reported herself. Meanwhile the plane went to Denver and back to Dallas and then back to Cleveland again before they found out she had been on the plane with a fever.Then the plane was disinfected… after another 300 or 400 people had been on it.Nice.
Also,heard from my niece who is a nurse and who has a friend who is a nurse in the hospital in Texas, that the reason why Mr Duncan was sent home the first time ,even though he had a fever and said he had been in Africa,was because he wasn't a citizen and had no insurance so they didn't want to admit him. Also nice,right?
I am more afraid of corporate greed and everyone's incompetence than I am of Ebola itself.
There's a lot of confusing information being spread around and I think that's partly why people are starting to panic. Today there's a person at Yale who recently spent time in Liberia being treated for ebola-like symptoms.
The NY Times says: Dr. Thomas J. Balcezak, chief medical officer for the hospital, said the hospital was using “an abundance of caution” in treating the patient, whom Dr. Balcezak declined to identify. He said the patient had been placed in a room with “negative pressure” to prevent the air from circulating to other parts of the hospital.
But I thought ebola was not airborne!! So why do they care about air in an ebola patient's room circulating to other parts of the hopsital? It's stuff like this that's going to get people crazy.
There's a lot of confusing information being spread around and I think that's partly why people are starting to panic. Today there's a person at Yale who recently spent time in Liberia being treated for ebola-like symptoms.
The NY Times says: Dr. Thomas J. Balcezak, chief medical officer for the hospital, said the hospital was using “an abundance of caution” in treating the patient, whom Dr. Balcezak declined to identify. He said the patient had been placed in a room with “negative pressure” to prevent the air from circulating to other parts of the hospital.
But I thought ebola was not airborne!! So why do they care about air in an ebola patient's room circulating to other parts of the hopsital? It's stuff like this that's going to get people crazy.
I don't care what anyone says,it has to be airborne to some degree.When you sneeze,an atomized mist of bodily fluid is sprayed outwards.
Sometimes you can literally see and feel the "shower" if you are in close proximity and the droplets are so fine that the spray can linger in the air briefly and then settle on other surfaces.They have admitted that the virus can live for a short period of time on surfaces contaminated by body fluids.Sneezing is one of the primary ways that colds and flus are spread and it is definitely a bodily fluid that is expelled ,so it doesn't make sense if they claim it is impossible to contract the virus in that way.It may be very unlikely but it's probably not impossible.
Ask yourself if you would want to be in the same room of an ebola patients sneeze shower or if you would want to run a finger across the top of their bedside table immediately after a sneeze and then put your finger in your eye or in your mouth or nose.The answer to that question will reveal whether you think it is impossible for the virus to be airborne.
I'm not usually paranoid but I am beginning to get the feeling that there is in fact a lot of lying going on about all of this.
There's a lot of confusing information being spread around and I think that's partly why people are starting to panic. Today there's a person at Yale who recently spent time in Liberia being treated for ebola-like symptoms.
The NY Times says: Dr. Thomas J. Balcezak, chief medical officer for the hospital, said the hospital was using “an abundance of caution” in treating the patient, whom Dr. Balcezak declined to identify. He said the patient had been placed in a room with “negative pressure” to prevent the air from circulating to other parts of the hospital.
But I thought ebola was not airborne!! So why do they care about air in an ebola patient's room circulating to other parts of the hopsital? It's stuff like this that's going to get people crazy.
I don't care what anyone says,it has to be airborne to some degree.When you sneeze,an atomized mist of bodily fluid is sprayed outwards.
Sometimes you can literally see and feel the "shower" if you are in close proximity and the droplets are so fine that the spray can linger in the air briefly and then settle on other surfaces.They have admitted that the virus can live for a short period of time on surfaces contaminated by body fluids.Sneezing is one of the primary ways that colds and flus are spread and it is definitely a bodily fluid that is expelled ,so it doesn't make sense if they claim it is impossible to contract the virus in that way.It may be very unlikely but it's probably not impossible.
Ask yourself if you would want to be in the same room of an ebola patients sneeze shower or if you would want to run a finger across the top of their bedside table immediately after a sneeze and then put your finger in your eye or in your mouth or nose.The answer to that question will reveal whether you think it is impossible for the virus to be airborne.
I'm not usually paranoid but I am beginning to get the feeling that there is in fact a lot of lying going on about all of this.
This is precisely the reason I said I'm cancelling my dr's appt being that he's African (from West Africa) and draws a lot of African patients.
There was a boy who lied about being hospitalized prior to coming back to the states and once here has been hospitalized again and on an Ebola watch.
There's a 21 day incubation period which could be missed by the airlines.
There's still a lot of unknowns about the virus and health professionals don't know if it has mutated. It can live on surfaces for up to 4 days, and in sperm up to 72 hours.
It could also have mutated into an airborne transmission being that the healthcare professionals, both missionaries and nurses stricken here have no idea how they were infected. Mr. Duncan only helped support the pregnant woman with Ebola when she passed out. She later died. We don't know if there were any bodily fluids he may or may not have come into contact with.
Haven't you asked "Why after all these years of Ebola being around did it just hit this country?" Even prior to the heightened security of terrorism there weren't any reported possible cases reported, to my knowledge.
Why now have a few people slipped through and made it on U.S. soil (not speaking of health professionals) with either the threat of Ebola or having the Ebola virus when it hasn't, to our knowledge, happened before?
Time for my wipes and haz-mat suit.
The CDC just doesn't have all the information and risk of Ebola.
She got on a plane from Dallas to Cleveland even though she was not supposed to go on any public transportation then she got on a plane from Cleveland back to Dallas with a temp of 99.9 because it was below the mysterious "threshold" of 100.4. Next morning she went over the 100.4 and reported herself. Meanwhile the plane went to Denver and back to Dallas and then back to Cleveland again before they found out she had been on the plane with a fever.Then the plane was disinfected… after another 300 or 400 people had been on it.Nice.
Also,heard from my niece who is a nurse and who has a friend who is a nurse in the hospital in Texas, that the reason why Mr Duncan was sent home the first time ,even though he had a fever and said he had been in Africa,was because he wasn't a citizen and had no insurance so they didn't want to admit him. Also nice,right?
I am more afraid of corporate greed and everyone's incompetence than I am of Ebola itself.
They should have admitted him after he told them he was experiencing symptoms of ebola. instead, they sent him home with painkillers. He would be alive today and the risk of exposure would have been low. Dumbass hospital administrators are more of a problem than the virus itself.
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