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There is a third option: go be poor somewhere else.
theres also a 4th: create living wage jobs so that the poor who dont wanna be poor anymore can work their way out of poverty......this would be clear common sense but in this society its socialism and its unacceptable
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Originally Posted by bellhead
Lots of affordable housing in the midwest...
theres also no jobs in the midwest....furthermore the hipsters who invaded NY came from the midwest.....if no ones forcing them to live out there why should the poor be forced to live there? esp when theres no jobs, they dont know anybody, theres no family connections and public transportation is damn near nonexistent?
this is a capitalistic society folks......for every winner theres at least 20 losers......for every rich person there has to be 1000 poor people.....so yea....good luck getting rid of all the poor people....dont let classist bigotry cloud good old fashioned common sense...
The bronx is just lacking a lot of the essence that gentrification needs. However, I know a few people who moved there because they were priced out of harlem and they hate it. I'm assuming landlords there are capitalizing on the fact people from other parts of the city may need a place to live and its more affordable(raised rent included). However, my big problem with lots of the bronx (and I guess the city in general) is many of those apartments are dumps so it just amazes me sometimes how much people are paying to live sub standardly. The bronx also has higher crime rate then rest of the city. Terrible schools, is outside of manhattan so public transportation isn't very great nights/weekends. Many people loitering and kind of drab looking. They recently closed barnes and noble which means no book stores (May not seem big but think about a whole borough with not one book store). It has a very high immigrant population, which can be irritating if you go in a store and they can barley speak english. Barley if any health food stores. You can say its coming if you want but they type of people moving in aren't really enough to spark an interest in whole foods. If anything they will get some of the working and middle class that have been priced out of the city.
The bronx is just lacking a lot of the essence that gentrification needs. However, I know a few people who moved there because they were priced out of harlem and they hate it. I'm assuming landlords there are capitalizing on the fact people from other parts of the city may need a place to live and its more affordable(raised rent included). However, my big problem with lots of the bronx (and I guess the city in general) is many of those apartments are dumps so it just amazes me sometimes how much people are paying to live sub standardly. The bronx also has higher crime rate then rest of the city. Terrible schools, is outside of manhattan so public transportation isn't very great nights/weekends. Many people loitering and kind of drab looking. They recently closed barnes and noble which means no book stores (May not seem big but think about a whole borough with not one book store). It has a very high immigrant population, which can be irritating if you go in a store and they can barley speak english. Barley if any health food stores. You can say its coming if you want but they type of people moving in aren't really enough to spark an interest in whole foods. If anything they will get some of the working and middle class that have been priced out of the city.
Eventually Manhattan itself will have no bookstores. Borders closed a few years ago and Barnes and Noble continues to close locations. People of all socioeconomic backgrounds eat at Whole Foods (they take Food Stamps).
Don't get me wrong, the Bronx has a long way to go. But I recall when Brooklyn was ghetto and even when big parts of Manhattan south of 96th Street were AWFUL!
The bronx is just lacking a lot of the essence that gentrification needs. However, I know a few people who moved there because they were priced out of harlem and they hate it. I'm assuming landlords there are capitalizing on the fact people from other parts of the city may need a place to live and its more affordable(raised rent included). However, my big problem with lots of the bronx (and I guess the city in general) is many of those apartments are dumps so it just amazes me sometimes how much people are paying to live sub standardly. The bronx also has higher crime rate then rest of the city. Terrible schools, is outside of manhattan so public transportation isn't very great nights/weekends. Many people loitering and kind of drab looking. They recently closed barnes and noble which means no book stores (May not seem big but think about a whole borough with not one book store). It has a very high immigrant population, which can be irritating if you go in a store and they can barley speak english. Barley if any health food stores. You can say its coming if you want but they type of people moving in aren't really enough to spark an interest in whole foods. If anything they will get some of the working and middle class that have been priced out of the city.
The lack of illiteracy did not kill Barnes and Noble in the Bronx. If i wanted to read a book I can whip out my Android phone or Windows tablet and read books off of my Kindle app. Amazon is killing book stores in general nationwide. Also I live 2 miles from the nearest book stores. Plenty of white transplants do shopping in nearby Manhattan that live here in the south Bronx . As for crime. That goes to Brooklyn which is a symbol and poster child of new urbanism in America. Just. The other day in gentrifying bed a man shot and killed two public servants. But yes you are right. A great deal of apartments are dumps and people are paying a premium to stay in them regardless of borough.
I just can't wait for the West Bronx to get some good ethnic restaurants like Cambodian, Korean, Filipino, Greek, etc. A few cozy coffee shops would go a long way. Once that happens, the West Bronx would entice me to move back from the suburbs.
Right now, I love driving by and seeing the all wonderful changes. You can really see the transformation.
Bookstores are closing because everything has gone digital (digital downloads). Physical and cluttering of book shelves is very 1998. Thanks, Apple! They made physical media disappear. Barnes and Noble closing down had nothing to do with being priced out.
I'd really like to go to the Bronx more often, but the times I have gone have always been unpleasant and unsafe. The vibe just illicit depression and no happy energy whatsoever. I think the sweat pants and Tims mentality has got to go. Oh, and vaseline and doo-rags too.
Bookstores are closing because everything has gone digital (digital downloads). Physical and cluttering of book shelves is very 1998. Thanks, Apple! They made physical media disappear. Barnes and Noble closing down had nothing to do with being priced out.
I'd really like to go to the Bronx more often, but the times I have gone have always been unpleasant and unsafe. The vibe just illicit depression and no happy energy whatsoever. I think the sweat pants and Tims mentality has got to go. Oh, and vaseline and doo-rags too.
I think you need to visit better areas in the Bronx. Sweat pants, Tims, vasline and doo-rags issue canbe found in any borough. Its not Bronx specific LOL
Washington DC area is nice. It is one of the best places to live for job center. I remember reading how few people were impacted by the financial and real estate crisis in that area (so many people on a government/contractor jobs). However, living there is not ideal unless your deeply into politics (only place I heard C-Span on FM radio). In my opinion, it is very boring place to live due to how strict the security around the capital. I never seen so many police officers close by in my life (felt like every block there was police). Only place I have ever been caught committing a rolling stop while driving (camera).
Outside of Washington DC, you are looking at suburban life (no thanks).
When I think of Washington DC the below song comes to mind.
You don't have to be or even need to be deeply invested politics in order to make a living in the DMV (hardly any of us watch C-SPAN btw). As for security, maybe around the Mall, Foggy Bottom, most of Downtown, and the parts of Capitol Hill closer to both the Capitol and Supreme Court grounds are somewhat of a police state but it's not overwhelming, particularly in a majority of the neighborhoods. As for those pesky cameras all over the city, try not cross the white line at a traffic light on red and most especially, cross into a pedestrian crosswalk zone or bike lane. They take that very seriously in DC as well as out here in some of the suburbs. You can turn right on red down here in the DC area though and jaywalking is pretty common in DC and some of the burbs as well (I'm guilty of this several times lol) so long as there are no officers in sight.
I really don't see how having a lot of security automatically makes the DMV a "boring place to live". By that definition, the same thing can be applied to New York....I've personally seen more larger concentrations of police personnel in spades up in the NYC than I do down here.
One more thing I want to note is if you still want a decent urban lifestyle outside of DC's city limits, you can always go to Arlington, Alexandria, Silver Spring, Bethesda, Wheaton, Takoma Park, Mount Rainier, City of Hyattsville, Riverdale Park, College Park, Chillum, etc.
Sorry to veer things slightly off-topic but I felt this needed to be addressed.
I'd really like to go to the Bronx more often, but the times I have gone have always been unpleasant and unsafe. The vibe just illicit depression and no happy energy whatsoever. I think the sweat pants and Tims mentality has got to go. Oh, and vaseline and doo-rags too.
Darling you can find sweat pants and tims right around your area you live in so just stop already.
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Originally Posted by Mistertee
I think you need to visit better areas in the Bronx. Sweat pants, Tims, vasline and doo-rags issue canbe found in any borough. Its not Bronx specific LOL
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