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Getting people off of drugs is easier said than done especially if they have mental issues and some people who have severe mental issues will never be able to hold jobs. I do agree that they deserve our help though.
We had mental facilites for just this very reason. Yes, they were mismanaged, but we should have fixed them rather than dump them on the street.
We had mental facilites for just this very reason. Yes, they were mismanaged, but we should have fixed them rather than dump them on the street.
Yes they were mismanaged and the people who were patients were abused not only by the people who worked there in many cases but also by the more violent patients. There is no easy answer because of the amount of mentally ill now.
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Yes they were mismanaged and the people who were patients were abused not only by the people who worked there in many cases but also by the more violent patients. There is no easy answer because of the amount of mentally ill now.
Crime against the homeless is also very, very high. Despite the world of social services available in NYC, I would not be homeless in NYC if I could help it (or any big, urbane city). I'd find some quiet suburban park somewhere in NJ to hide in or somewhere down south (except Florida, another high crime state).
The answer is *Diligence*, open facilites for the mentally ill with very strict oversight. Send addicts to rehab instead of prison.
New York City needs to deal with a fundamental reality; some persons are not now nor ever going to be able to afford living in NYC without vast and deep subsidies. End of story, move along nothing else to see here folks.
That woman in linked story one posted about in another thread has eleven (11) children and next to nil income. There are households earning >$65K per year trying to find "affordable" housing for a family of four (two adults and two kids), and this one thinks she is entitled to a three or four bedroom apartment for next to nothing all because she cannot control her breeding habits.
It would be one thing if the population of "homeless" and or poor were a stable number, but it continues to increase. Why shouldn't it? Bill de Blasio and the City council has hung out the "welcome" sign for tons of immigrants, poor and others to roll on up to NYC. No housing? No problem we've got that covered. So persons keep arriving and expecting the City to find/give them housing.
Their ace card in all this is "the children". Well when I was coming up you didn't have kids unless you could afford to feed, shelter and otherwise provide for them. Obviously these young gals and their baby's daddies didn't read that memo.
New York City needs to deal with a fundamental reality; some persons are not now nor ever going to be able to afford living in NYC without vast and deep subsidies. End of story, move along nothing else to see here folks.
That woman in linked story one posted about in another thread has eleven (11) children and next to nil income. There are households earning >$65K per year trying to find "affordable" housing for a family of four (two adults and two kids), and this one thinks she is entitled to a three or four bedroom apartment for next to nothing all because she cannot control her breeding habits.
It would be one thing if the population of "homeless" and or poor were a stable number, but it continues to increase. Why shouldn't it? Bill de Blasio and the City council has hung out the "welcome" sign for tons of immigrants, poor and others to roll on up to NYC. No housing? No problem we've got that covered. So persons keep arriving and expecting the City to find/give them housing.
Their ace card in all this is "the children". Well when I was coming up you didn't have kids unless you could afford to feed, shelter and otherwise provide for them. Obviously these young gals and their baby's daddies didn't read that memo.
And the cherry on top is people forget that the whole concept of piling poor people into dense urban environments doesn't help poor people but instead fosters ghettoization, violence and depression. Ride the PATH to Newark and head into the residental areas. Is that what we want? (although the Ironbound is awesome)
New York City needs to deal with a fundamental reality; some persons are not now nor ever going to be able to afford living in NYC without vast and deep subsidies. End of story, move along nothing else to see here folks.
That woman in linked story one posted about in another thread has eleven (11) children and next to nil income. There are households earning >$65K per year trying to find "affordable" housing for a family of four (two adults and two kids), and this one thinks she is entitled to a three or four bedroom apartment for next to nothing all because she cannot control her breeding habits.
It would be one thing if the population of "homeless" and or poor were a stable number, but it continues to increase. Why shouldn't it? Bill de Blasio and the City council has hung out the "welcome" sign for tons of immigrants, poor and others to roll on up to NYC. No housing? No problem we've got that covered. So persons keep arriving and expecting the City to find/give them housing.
Their ace card in all this is "the children". Well when I was coming up you didn't have kids unless you could afford to feed, shelter and otherwise provide for them. Obviously these young gals and their baby's daddies didn't read that memo.
Bull****.
There is no welcome mat for the poor in NYC. Housing for poor in Manhattan, Brooklyn, or most of Queens? Hahaha. I've know people in the field for these programs, and you'll only find housing for these programs in the worst parts of Staten Island, the worst parts of the Bronx, and maybe a few bad parts of Eastern Brooklyn and Eastern Queens.
And the cherry on top is people forget that the whole concept of piling poor people into dense urban environments doesn't help poor people but instead fosters ghettoization, violence and depression. Ride the PATH to Newark and head into the residental areas. Is that what we want? (although the Ironbound is awesome)
Poor people are being priced out of NYC and other big cities and moving to the suburbs.
Yet people fossils on this forum still rant and rave about anything that anyone does that is different from what would have been done when they were little children back in 1715.
Not sure why this is surprising to anyone. If you make life easier for the homeless, you'll get more homeless. Pretty simple
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