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Old 02-28-2015, 06:11 PM
 
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I don't live in NYC, but the impression I've gotten is DeBlasio talk and policies are more aimed at the working-poor or working-class living in an increasingly expensive city than welfare-class (which is what I assume you mean by underclass).
Your impression is right. We won of the working class vote as NYC became extremely expensive during the Bloomberg years.
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Old 02-28-2015, 10:13 PM
 
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I don't live in NYC, but the impression I've gotten is DeBlasio talk and policies are more aimed at the working-poor or working-class living in an increasingly expensive city than welfare-class (which is what I assume you mean by underclass).
I doubt that's what he means, but I'll let him clarify it.
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Old 03-01-2015, 10:55 AM
 
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This was correct as of the last mayoral election. A lot of the voters forgot what the city was like pre-Giuliani, or weren't around then.

Let Bla run the city into the ground, and **** of a lot of people who probably voted for him. We'll see what the situation looks like when he has to run for reelection.

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He has no chance of winning another election. His support base has either died off or moved to the suburbs. The 1993 election was 22 years ago, a different city with far different issues.
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Old 03-01-2015, 11:02 AM
 
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This was correct as of the last mayoral election. A lot of the voters forgot what the city was like pre-Giuliani, or weren't around then.

Let Bla run the city into the ground, and **** of a lot of people who probably voted for him. We'll see what the situation looks like when he has to run for reelection.
I personally like the way the city is being run under de Blasio.

Have businesses fled like old, poor decayed right wingers predicted?

No.

In fact, you continue to see corporate investment through the city and an expansion of real estate construction.

GASP!

The City is doing fine under de Blasio.

And in a political since Giuliani is completely over and finished. He was unable to move on to higher office or even be appointment to a position in the federal government. That in and of itself should say something right there.

There's not even any credible Republican opposition for de Blasio. He'll likely be reelected.

And truthfully Giuliani didn't change the city that much. The gentrification that hit the city happened under Bloomberg, who increased tax credits for real estate developers. It was Bloomberg who granted film and tv companies tax credits to move to NYC, Bloomberg who granted the tech sector tax credits to come to NYC, and Bloomberg who did a much better job of marketing NYC to the world.

All Giuliani did was clean up Times Square. Granted that should have been done, but that wasn't much of a policy for the rest of the city. Giuliani era Harlem and Bedstuy were as ghetto as ever as Giuliani did not attract any major investment to run down city areas (including LIC, Williamsburg, West Side of Manhattan,etc). This was all Bloomberg, and investment money continues to flow in under de Blasio.

Oh, and Giuliani had the cops shut down a lot of nightclubs. What a hero (utter nonsense)!
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The biggest violent crime drop happened under Guliani, however. Though how much is from his actions is debatable.
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Old 03-01-2015, 01:01 PM
 
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The biggest violent crime drop happened under Guliani, however. Though how much is from his actions is debatable.
While crime dropped nationally in all major cities.

A: The federal government gave big cities more money for police.

B:Federal and state governments passed stricter sentencing laws.

C: The federal government got rid of easy welfare.

D: The urban crack cocaine era faded out.

Giuliani was not mayor in Los Angeles, DC, Chicago, Boston, Miami,Philadelphia and other big cities that had a similar big crime drop.

So clearly there was a number of national factors at play.

Again Bloomberg deserves the true credit for transformation NYC to the 21st century and for diversifying it's economy.
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Old 03-01-2015, 04:17 PM
 
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You still waiting on the name calling?
No, I forgot about this thread. You seem interested though.
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Old 03-01-2015, 04:19 PM
 
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I doubt that's what he means, but I'll let him clarify it.
You had your chance. You still want to hear me say something racist, so here it is: something racist. Now maybe you can drop it.
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Old 03-01-2015, 04:23 PM
 
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I don't live in NYC, but the impression I've gotten is DeBlasio talk and policies are more aimed at the working-poor or working-class living in an increasingly expensive city than welfare-class (which is what I assume you mean by underclass).
The real story of DeBlasio lies in figuring out why the vast majority of registered voters of all political stripes stayed home that day. Forget winning a majority, DeBlasio won a sliver of the city's voters in one of the lowest turnouts ever for a mayoral election. Whether I agree with him or not, that is a disgusting display of our "democracy". Everyone should be ashamed.
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Old 03-01-2015, 04:35 PM
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The real story of DeBlasio lies in figuring out why the vast majority of registered voters of all political stripes stayed home that day. Forget winning a majority, DeBlasio won a sliver of the city's voters in one of the lowest turnouts ever for a mayoral election. Whether I agree with him or not, that is a disgusting display of our "democracy". Everyone should be ashamed.
Was the turnout that different from previous mayoral elections? It's possible that everyone assumed the DeBlasio was going to win by a landslide so didn't bother go to the polls. Anyway, now that he's more controversial, hopefully more will show up to vote next time. If he's as unpopular as some of the forum believe, maybe he'll lose or at least have a tough campaign.

I'll admit I didn't vote in the city mayoral election of the city election I'm residing. Didn't know enough to decide who to vote for. And one annoying thing about getting your news from the internet is local news often gets lost. I heard more about the New York governor's race than the Massachusetts one last election.
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