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Old 03-01-2015, 01:13 AM
 
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OK, obvious bias aside by asking this in the NYC forum, I'd like the opinions of the locals.

I've been living overseas for half a decade. I have two BAs and have been working for my host country's government as an administrative assistant and writer. I'm also a musician and writer in my off hours. I'd be doing similar when I return to the US (day job and working to make it in my spare time).

FWIW I can't drive at the moment (making NYC a bit more palatable). :P

My big question: LA or NYC? I ask in terms of the local economy, unemployment rates, how trends in these industries are going, rent prices, etc.
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Old 03-01-2015, 01:23 AM
 
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Truthfully the unemployment rates in either city don't matter. The true question is can you personally get a job that would enable you to support yourself.

Which city do you have some sort of support network in? That'll make it a lot easier. Being able to line up a job before you go, or at least having decent job prospects will help as well.
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Old 03-01-2015, 02:35 AM
 
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Truthfully the unemployment rates in either city don't matter. The true question is can you personally get a job that would enable you to support yourself.

Which city do you have some sort of support network in? That'll make it a lot easier. Being able to line up a job before you go, or at least having decent job prospects will help as well.
Hi NYWriterdude, sounds like we might get along!

I have friends/acquaintances in both cities. I will start applying for jobs in whichever city I decide before I leave, as well as ask contacts if they know of anyone who's looking.

I think whether I can support myself is mostly going to matter on rent, and if I were to choose LA, transportation costs as well. Based on what I want to spend on rent, I'd be living in Queens or The Bronx if I chose NYC.
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Old 03-01-2015, 04:55 AM
 
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Hi NYWriterdude, sounds like we might get along!
Love at first type.
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Old 03-01-2015, 07:39 AM
 
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What kind of music? Just you and a guitar or keyboard? Full band? Computer/Electronic? Do you have a particular goal in mind? In NYC you're never more than a stone's throw away from a fairly accomplished musician and maybe with another throw, away from someone with a connection somewhere (for instance someone who could get you a gig or an engineer/producer that can put together a much stronger recording than you could ever do yourself). If you can't drive (you should probably learn anyway) you'll be better off in NYC for obvious reasons. You really want to be able to live on next to nothing to keep your options open and going into debt in service of a car will be a ball and chain.
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Old 03-01-2015, 08:25 AM
 
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OK, obvious bias aside by asking this in the NYC forum, I'd like the opinions of the locals.

I've been living overseas for half a decade. I have two BAs and have been working for my host country's government as an administrative assistant and writer. I'm also a musician and writer in my off hours. I'd be doing similar when I return to the US (day job and working to make it in my spare time).

FWIW I can't drive at the moment (making NYC a bit more palatable). :P

My big question: LA or NYC? I ask in terms of the local economy, unemployment rates, how trends in these industries are going, rent prices, etc.
You'll probably need to budget $1500 per month minimum on rent for a decent place with subway access in either Queens or the Bronx. More like $1700 or $1800 would be better. I have no idea what rent places are like in LA so can't compare.

One thing that did change in the 5 years you've been away is that rents have really gone up a lot.

If you arrive without a job, you'd probably have to start out in a roommate situation because landlords in NY are not too flexible with potential tenants who can't prove they make 40x the income (for a $1500 apartment that would be $60,000 per year gross).
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Old 03-01-2015, 11:00 AM
 
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If you can't drive there really is no choice: it's NYC. In LA driving is your oxygen.
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Old 03-01-2015, 11:05 AM
 
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If you can't drive there really is no choice: it's NYC. In LA driving is your oxygen.
Not true.

Believe it or not there are poor people in Los Angeles. They take the bus and train along with some middle class people.

It's just that in big cities people only want to see the richest people. Just as there are plenty of people in LA taking public transportation, there are many people in Manhattan living in housing projects or program housing though people like to pretend everyone in Manhattan is outrageously wealthy. Not true.
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Old 03-01-2015, 11:29 AM
 
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If you can't drive there really is no choice: it's NYC. In LA driving is your oxygen.
Uber.
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Old 03-01-2015, 11:37 AM
 
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OP: if you come to L.A. admin. assts can get on as personal assistants to industry people(film/tv). Or work in law firms, etc.. Since you're a writer, L.A. can be a good fit depending on what you write. The choices on that front should be obvious to you. NYC is expensive. L.A. somewhat less so..Ubering around is fairly cheap. That said..if you end up working on sets..YOU WILL NEED A CAR, FULL STOP. If you plan on actually playing gigs as a musician..CAR.

If for some reason you're blocked from driving..go to NY.
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