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Moving within the company does not mean staying in NYC, or starting in NYC. One can work in DE as a career step and be transferred to a higher post in NYC. One can get experience in DE, and land a higher post in another company in NYC. Or even London, Tokyo or SFO. Experience supersedes location whether when one is moving up internally or jumping companies. If most of the entry level and mid-management positions are elsewhere, they will have the advantage when it comes to getting promoted.
I disagree, networking trumps all especially when you are looking to transition into different type of job in which your experience does not have a direct relationship. During the golden days of wall street it was common for people in the back office (support role) who came from a less prestigious university to earn a quick reputation and move to the front office (revenue producing role), all you needed to know was a senior person in the front office who liked you and would vouch for you. Now a days to the front office, you are just a guy on the phone who has better English than the person in India.
Knowing the CEO and CFO of the company will open a lot more doors for you than whatever exaggerated claim you plan to list on a resume paper as experience you received (in which you will submit over the internet). I doubt you would claim corporate job is a meritocracy of fairness in which the most qualified person gets the job, rather it the person who is liked the best. Hence there is a lot of white male privilege at the corporate level. I would say women have it the worse, having to deal with sleazy bosses and double standards. I think the tv show "mad men" does a good illustration of it.
I disagree, networking trumps all especially when you are looking to transition into different type of job in which your experience does not have a direct relationship. During the golden days of wall street it was common for people in the back office (support role) who came from a less prestigious university to earn a quick reputation and move to the front office (revenue producing role), all you needed to know was a senior person in the front office who liked you and would vouch for you. Now a days to the front office, you are just a guy on the phone who has better English than the person in India.
Knowing the CEO and CFO of the company will open a lot more doors for you than whatever exaggerated claim you plan to list on a resume paper as experience you received (in which you will submit over the internet). I doubt you would claim corporate job is a meritocracy of fairness in which the most qualified person gets the job, rather it the person who is liked the best. Hence there is a lot of white male privilege at the corporate level. I would say women have it the worse, having to deal with sleazy bosses and double standards.
Too many generalizations in your post. You can network from wherever you work in the world. My first job was with the Southeast Asian office of an MNC and I had colleagues who networked their way to assignments in the major hub offices in NY, Raleigh and San Jose. I know how it's done and it's not that difficult - managers will even create opportunities for their most promising employees to network and will put it in their career objectives. One can get an assignment in a cross functional team or special project and get exposed to colleagues and executives around the world. In my current employer, an investment bank, we take assignees from everywhere whether Madrid, Tokyo or Jacksonville. P&G, Unilever, and Shell are some of the many large companies that routinely offer employees everywhere the opportunity to network into their HQ. The current CEO of Coca Cola and his predecessor came from overseas branch offices which goes to show that the most ambitious employees stand out regardless of location.
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Are we thinking that East Flatbush would be a good location for banks to setup low cost satellite locations? Either that or this thread really went off topic.
A lot of these comments got off topic. I think the area is improving- my background: I purchased an apt in East Flatbush (29th & Foster- 2nd to last stop on 2/5 train) in my early 20s in 2008 & never had an issue- I lived there for 4 years and took cabs home after 10pm (I'm a female). I ended up moving out and subletting it to a professional couple for one year and my current tenant is an older woman. I think if you like the area you should check it out to see how it is. I stay in touch with my previous neighbors and their feelings are that it is improving
A lot of these comments got off topic. I think the area is improving- my background: I purchased an apt in East Flatbush (29th & Foster- 2nd to last stop on 2/5 train) in my early 20s in 2008 & never had an issue- I lived there for 4 years and took cabs home after 10pm (I'm a female). I ended up moving out and subletting it to a professional couple for one year and my current tenant is an older woman. I think if you like the area you should check it out to see how it is. I stay in touch with my previous neighbors and their feelings are that it is improving
Just curious - where did you live before 29th and Foster?
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What is your point? Areas change and can get better or worse. This forum asked if that area is getting better and my response was yes- I have seen it done before so u know the signs of when it is happening. Like I said in my original response if you like it then live there and just be careful of your surroundings
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Just curious - where did you live before 29th and Foster?
P.S. Try looking in the Bronx for cheap rents. There have been several threads over the past few months where people discuss which neighborhoods are good and affordable and have good subway access, etc.
That's where I'd look if I were new to the city, didn't already have a set of friends established in one particular place, and needed cheap rent.
Henna, if you do not mind, can you provide me or tell me what to put in the search box for the links of the above mentioned threads? Maybe I am not putting the correct words in the search box.
We are a family of 3 (DH, 3 yr old Pre-Schooler and myself), moving to Brooklyn in May. My husband will be a resident at The Brooklyn Hospital Center. We are looking for a 2 BR with a $1800 (max $2000) budget. Is that doable? Will need a good pre-school/elementary school as well.
The areas I had in mind were Park Slope, South Park Slope, Sunset Park, Bay Ridge, Kensington, Midwood, Winsdsor Terrace, Fort Greene, Cobble Hill, Clinton Hill. I know my budget is very tight to get into with the areas above (though not for Bay Ridge, Sunset Park, Kensington or Midwood).
Am I correct when I say that I want to stay away from Bed-Stuy, Bushwick, Flatbush, Crown Heights. How is Preospect Park and Prospect Lefferts Garden (near the Park / Ocean Ave.?). Any other areas that I overlooked? I am a SAHM and my husband will be driving to TBHC (maybe taking the subway during winter), not decided on the car vs subway part yet (winter or no winter), hence would prefer something walkable close to the subway line.
Is the Brooklyn map upto date? It was posted 3 years ago, but just want to know if anything has changed since then? For Eg: Is Bed-Stuy / Clinton cusp - 125 Quincy St or 684 Myrtle or 140 Lexington Ave - Are these safe areas for us? I have a toddler and don't want to live in fear all the time while my husband is at work or working late nights.
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