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Old 08-07-2008, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Look at it this way: the trendy people get a learning experience they wouldn't otherwise have!
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Old 08-07-2008, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Queens, N.Y.
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What do you guys think of that article about the guy who moved to Bushwick and got attacked? (it's part of this same article on the NY Times website). I got really annoyed by it. He moved to Bushwick because he wanted the 'old school New York', gritty vibe, and then when he got mugged, he ran back to San Francisco. I don't think he 'deserved' to get mugged but I can't stand people who go looking for a sketchy neighborhood and then run away crying when something bad happens. Like they want some kind of 'cool' and 'hip' stage to parade around on, but they can't deal with the reality of it. He just came off as a spoiled, pretentious hipster brat. It's one thing to live in a bad area because you can't afford anything better, but doing it to be trendy is ridiculous, IMO.
Yep that's exactly what's going on and little do some of these people know that the financial squeeze is going to eventually affect the city's ability to police the neighborhoods and once the grip loosens all these 'yo man, can you believe I'm living up in Bed-Stuy, same hood Jay-Z grew up in' will begin to look like easy pickings for the poor and restless.
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Old 08-07-2008, 10:56 PM
 
Location: San Diego,CA
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I have cousins in NY who say cities in Jersey are alot worse than those in New York nowadays. There's some hoods in Newark that they'll snatch people out of cars at gunpoint,lots of murders,and random people get beat down on the regular.Not tryin to be negative,Haha..Just what I heard. I've been to NYC, and to Jerz many times. It doesn't look the hoods in Jersey are improving much.Is it strickly the poverty?Or the mindset of the community out there?

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Old 08-08-2008, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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What do you guys think of that article about the guy who moved to Bushwick and got attacked? (it's part of this same article on the NY Times website). I got really annoyed by it. He moved to Bushwick because he wanted the 'old school New York', gritty vibe, and then when he got mugged, he ran back to San Francisco. I don't think he 'deserved' to get mugged but I can't stand people who go looking for a sketchy neighborhood and then run away crying when something bad happens. Like they want some kind of 'cool' and 'hip' stage to parade around on, but they can't deal with the reality of it. He just came off as a spoiled, pretentious hipster brat. It's one thing to live in a bad area because you can't afford anything better, but doing it to be trendy is ridiculous, IMO.
Hear, hear....
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Old 08-08-2008, 03:18 PM
 
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Yep that's exactly what's going on and little do some of these people know that the financial squeeze is going to eventually affect the city's ability to police the neighborhoods and once the grip loosens all these 'yo man, can you believe I'm living up in Bed-Stuy, same hood Jay-Z grew up in' will begin to look like easy pickings for the poor and restless.
This is definetly the way things are going. Once the budget problems increase, and unfortunately they will as the economy slows and the Finance sector gets hammered, then the overtime will dry up for he cops and Narcotics will be spending less time doing buy & bust--and this will all happen as unemployment rises and people have less money in their pocket, which will put upwards pressure on crime.

The NYPD currently has its manpower deployed in the wealthy areas of Manhattan and the higher crime areas of Brooklyn and the Bronx. Middle Class areas like Staten Island and in South Queens are getting the short-end of the stick and are seeing some of the city's highest increases in crime.

Add to this mix the depreciating value of homes as buyers cannot get mortgages in the amounts to support the higher prices--this is especially true in the outer boros, less so in Manhattan. More people walk from their homes as they get underwater on the mortgage OR lose their jobs and can't afford the mortgage anymore. More abandoned homes makes the area less desirable and contributes its own upward pressure on crime and neighborhood decay.

Finally, many of these transplant Hipsters get tired of being crime victims and head back home to wherever they're from, leaving a void of the kind of people the city needs to gentrify these areas to make them safer and more stable in the long term.

This credit crunch and slowing economy is going to hurt.
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Old 08-08-2008, 10:20 PM
 
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I think a map that showed a breakdown of the actual violent crime rates would better reflect which areas were more or less dangerous.

According to the NYPD website, the 41st precinct covering Hunts Point and Longwood recorded the highest violent crime rate in the city last year, and is seeing a 15% increase in violent crimes so far this year. From what I've heard, a good bulk of the crime that the 41st records is coming from Hunts Point rather than Longwood. Other precincts also seem to have their own 'concentrations' of crime within the boundaries of their own districts. Brownsville's 73rd took second place, along with the highest murder rate in the city. It's interesting, however, that both these low income areas seem to record less property crimes than they do violent crimes.
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