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My car is worth all the hell i deal with living in the city. My son is five never been on the subway (the lirr, metro north, amtrak YES, subway noway).I know people have to but its so unsanitary and I just never know what the person next to me is liable to do. The constant rush of beggars and loud ghetto people. The crowded station where you are one step from falling off. Just not my thing.
Has anyone ever taken the C or E train northbound to 34th street? Have you seen the crowd of people trying to transfer from the LIRR to the subway? . People are backed up from the platform all the way down the stairs into Penn Station sometimes! When I use to get off on that stop for work I use to say to myself, "If I had to endure this every morning I would make it my duty to find another job elsewhere!" Either that or find a different way to commute in.
I take that train every day. There's two problems.
1) Now there's some sort of interminable "construction" blocking part of the hall from the lower level of the subway station to Penn Station. If more than one subway train arrives at a time, that hall becomes a bottleneck. Exit by the stairs at track level to avoid.
2) If something happens on the LIRR or in the Hudson River Tunnels, that end of the Penn Station mezzanine level itself can fill up. This isn't normal though.
It's a one-sided relationship. The state controls the budget so working relationship is moot. Blasio was in Albany recently begging for the additional $15bn needed to fully upgrade the MTA and came back empty handed.
I'm pretty sure NYC can find some leverage when it comes to negotiations with the state it is a part of and pretty much supports.
I'm pretty sure NYC can find some leverage when it comes to negotiations with the state it is a part of and pretty much supports.
Short answer is "No", with some qualifications. NYC does not have enough representation in the state legislature to get that big an amount. Majority of assembly members are either upstate and/or suburban, while the senate is GOP controlled. NYC may be able to squeeze a couple of billions here and there, but nowhere near the $15bn needed to fill the MTA capital budget gap.
Short answer is "No", with some qualifications. NYC does not have enough representation in the state legislature to get that big an amount. Majority of assembly members are either upstate and/or suburban, while the senate is GOP controlled. NYC may be able to squeeze a couple of billions here and there, but nowhere near the $15bn needed to fill the MTA capital budget gap.
The suburbs should have a shared interest. And the GOPs issue is more with deBlasio than anything else. You made it sound like our mayor wasn't even successful squeezing the couple billion here or there either.
The suburbs should have a shared interest. And the GOPs issue is more with deBlasio than anything else. You made it sound like our mayor wasn't even successful squeezing the couple billion here or there either.
You need that $15bn to dramatically improve the subway system. It's either you get it all, or nothing - no newer cars, no more upgrades to the Queens railway lines, no more new signaling systems, no ifs, no buts. At the end of the day, the issue boils down to money, not party lines or personalities. It's a game of numbers, not reason. Would Bloomberg have tried congestion pricing if he could easily get funding from Albany? And the suburbs have their own issues to deal with, so don't count on them to give their wholehearted support.
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You need that $15bn to dramatically improve the subway system. It's either you get it all, or nothing - no newer cars, no more upgrades to the Queens railway lines, no more new signaling systems, no ifs, no buts. At the end of the day, the issue boils down to money, not party lines or personalities. It's a game of numbers, not reason. Would Bloomberg have tried congestion pricing if he could easily get funding from Albany? And the suburbs have their own issues to deal with, so don't count on them to give their wholehearted support.
There has to be plenty of other programs to cut as a cost savings to offset some of this $15bn ask. Even this $15bn ask, I'm sure they can cut it to only cover the necessities.
There has to be plenty of other programs to cut as a cost savings to offset some of this $15bn ask. Even this $15bn ask, I'm sure they can cut it to only cover the necessities.
Yes, but the operative question is whose programs are going to be cut. The obvious answer is it will all fall on NYC, not the suburbs, not upstate. Nobody outside of the city will sacrifice their money to pay for the city's subways. The state is already cutting funding for NYC's homeless shelters and public schools. What else in the city can be cut without breaking its back? It's not like municipalities in NY are in surplus.
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. People are backed up from the platform all the way down the stairs into Penn Station sometimes! When I use to get off on that stop for work I use to say to myself, "If I had to endure this every morning I would make it my duty to find another job elsewhere!" Either that or find a different way to commute in.
