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Old 04-05-2015, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Between the Bays
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BTW it's you're, not your.
Good to know that the Newark public school system actually taught you something.
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Old 04-05-2015, 05:54 PM
 
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Okay, done. You agree they are savages too. The ones from the St Pattys day parade turned themselves in already. Maybe the casino ones will as well.
They did? I didn't hear about that
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Old 04-05-2015, 05:58 PM
 
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Do you think the casinos in Monte Carlo and Vegas are filled with low class people looking for a way out?

Gambling has nothing to do with social class or status. The casinos of the world are filled with very rich high rollers who are flown in and out and comped on everything because they blow so much money on their addiction.

Gambling is an addiction that recognizes no racial or class lines,just like alcoholism.
Oh but yes it does recognize class lines.

I don't see Wall Street execs playing the lotto and I never saw a well off crowd going to those off track betting places.

Gambling disproportionately is a poor person thing.

If a wealthy person wants to risk their money, they have the means to invest (and if they make good investments they'll do well).

Anyone can buy a ticket to Vegas. I don't think people living in Midtown East, the Hamptons, Beverly Hills or other well of communities are racing to Vegas to gamble off all their millions.

The casinos I have been to (not Vegas) where not filled with wealthy people. Nationally the industry leeches off poor people (most states have casinos now and the industry is at overcapacity actually with casinos closing in some places, see Atlantic City).

Anytime I am in well off communities I never hear people get excited about casinos or lotteries. I only hear that in poor communities.
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Old 04-05-2015, 05:58 PM
 
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They did? I didn't hear about that
Jets fans in St. Patrick’s Day brawl ‘turn selves in’ | New York Post

Sounds like 2 Italian kids and a Hispanic kid. If it makes some feel better I'd call them savages too. No need to run to their defense.
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Old 04-05-2015, 05:59 PM
 
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What about the poker championships on ESPN? If anything I think serious gamblers have money. You gotta have money to gamble, amirite? I think completely opposite of you.
Not really. I mean you have to have some money to gamble, but rich people don't keep the industry afloat. Poor working class people do. Ditto for the lottery.
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Old 04-05-2015, 06:02 PM
 
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What about the poker championships on ESPN? If anything I think serious gamblers have money. You gotta have money to gamble, amirite? I think completely opposite of you.
Most of the people on ESPN are broke or live off of sponsorship. It is very hard to make a living from poker (especially after the ban on online poker making it very difficult for the average person to send money online). Most are degenerate gamblers with a personality which got them the attention and sponsorship. ESPN glamorizes the profession for rating and money. They don't do any background check or have any journalistic integrity, if I claim to be a million it must be true (no matter how many people I might owe money to). The smart ones quit while they are ahead and return to school, in the long run most of them lose. Even the best ones made their money during the golden era (when the game first became popular) when it was a easier game, because most people didn't know how to play.
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Old 04-05-2015, 06:16 PM
 
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Oh but yes it does recognize class lines.
The casinos I have been to (not Vegas) where not filled with wealthy people. Nationally the industry leeches off poor people (most states have casinos now and the industry is at overcapacity actually with casinos closing in some places, see Atlantic City).
Atlantic City use to be the only gambling destination for people in the nearby state. In the recent years, Maryland, Delaware, and Pennsylvania have all opened casino's which cut into Atlantic City's revenue. No longer need to drive for 2 hours to gamble in AC, when you can do it 30 minutes from home.

Most casino depend on old people who like to socialize and play slot machines. They offer buffets and free buses to them. Not sure why they like it so much, I guess it better than staying at home.
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Old 04-05-2015, 06:30 PM
 
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Growing up I use to admire wresting, my favorite part was the royal rumble. 30 man walk into the ring, only one man left standing. I use to think how bad a$$ that would be, in which I wouldn't mind if I was a part of brawl if there were not any real world consequence for being a part of it. I think it just immaturity mixed with alcohol. Given how regulated our life is and how discipline we must be in protecting ourselves and future life aspiration in our current society (everything is being recorded), it fun to let loose and create utter mayhem. This is what college is all about self discovery (burn the place down if your college team wins)...haha
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Old 04-05-2015, 08:56 PM
 
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Family instability is a huge problem. A part of social engineering moving forward will need to be pushing birth control and abortion.

In older generations of my family, there were lots of children. But today people have far fewer kids, and it's been that way for awhile now. Meaning kids born today most likely won't have huge support networks of aunts and uncles. At the most they'll just have one or two. Grandparents? Depending on how old the grandparents are and the health of the grandparents.

I am going to say don't have kids until you find stability in relationships (marriage) and life.

Not trying to sound like a right winger but it isn't fair to your family, to the rest of society, and to the government to have kids you can't take care of yourself.

Congress disagrees. It's funny, teabaggers (yes i'm using that as a pejorative to describe ppl with stupid ideas) want to repeal RVW and ban abortions but don't realize how this effects the larger african-american community.
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Old 04-05-2015, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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Most of the people on ESPN are broke or live off of sponsorship. It is very hard to make a living from poker (especially after the ban on online poker making it very difficult for the average person to send money online). Most are degenerate gamblers with a personality which got them the attention and sponsorship. ESPN glamorizes the profession for rating and money. They don't do any background check or have any journalistic integrity, if I claim to be a million it must be true (no matter how many people I might owe money to). The smart ones quit while they are ahead and return to school, in the long run most of them lose. Even the best ones made their money during the golden era (when the game first became popular) when it was a easier game, because most people didn't know how to play.
Are you sure about that? Do you know anyone that does this type of gambling sport on ESPN? Please enlighten for us.


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This is why Sheldon Silver blocked proposals that would have put the casino in Manhattan or even in desirable parts of Brooklyn and Queens.

Who really gambles? Not well off people. Poor miserable people hoping for a miracle would be the biggest gamblers. Don't get me wrong, people with money might go out to a casino to play a little and say eat or drink or go to a performance or whatever. But serious gamblers are low class people looking for an easy way out.

So clearly it's a class thing.
I don't think its a class thing. Have you ever visited a Casino before? I have been to Casinos in Vegas, AC, New Orleans and even in our great state of NY. You'd be surprise who goes to gamble there. I can assure you that poor people do not have enough money to gamble and if anything probably gamble on the streets. The biggest gamblers are those with addictions or some sort of mental depression regardless of class or a race. Crap I blew most of my gambling money on hot strippers and shooting guns. Another thing about gambling is money culture. Liberals with money like San Francisco, Boston, NY types wont be at casinos gambling. The very liberals that you adore and support gentrification and inequality would never put a penny in a casino and probably put their money or mouth in a stock option or property. But money type people who come from sunbelt regions like a Texan oil tycoon, or lets say a movie producer from LA, or an Scottsdale golf course owner in Arizona would probably be more at an casino than liberal money types of the north. If anything an wealthy liberal from NY or San Fran will probably go to a casino once in a blue, mainly to chill or party but not to gamble.
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Do you think the casinos in Monte Carlo and Vegas are filled with low class people looking for a way out?

Gambling has nothing to do with social class or status. The casinos of the world are filled with very rich high rollers who are flown in and out and comped on everything because they blow so much money on their addiction.


Gambling is an addiction that recognizes no racial or class lines,just like alcoholism.

Monte Carlo is for the rich and wealthy. Same could also be said for Macau which is a Chinese territory but used to be a Portuguese colony. People as far as the Middle East, to India and Japan come to Macau to gamble. I don't think poor people can afford those places. Even the best casinos in Vegas do not have poor people gambling in them and are filled with money type people.
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