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I don't think NYC is getting rid of poor people especially those who receive aid from the city, state and fed.
You would be right. Benefits are better and easier to come by in New York, and here in particular there are a myriad of new housing solutions for what are termed "very low income" people, especially families - legally defined as two people but if one is a child the odds are even better.
People are coming to New York from other states for that reason, as is well known.
The management of poverty is now, as a consequence, a growth industry in New York. One good that could come of it - social workers paid more, as they should have been all along.
Some are fleeing, while new ones arrive to take their place. I don't see the data as being so alarming or worthy of exclamation points. People live in NYC while it suits them, for example, for career opportunities. If people don't have strong roots here, then for many there's no reason to stay in one of the most expensive places in the country if their job situation changes, or if they have kids and can no longer afford the space they need.
I don't think it comes as any surprise to anyone that NYC is not middle-class-family friendly.
If they are having difficulty in making ends meet, they are POOR.............
And yes NYC's population has been growing.
The people who do get welfare in NYC can't just get an apartment tomorrow. It could take you years to get a place in NYCHA, and Section 8 has been closed in NYC every since 2009. Very few new welfare apartments are available in Manhattan or much of Brooklyn or Queens except the worst neighborhoods.
So yes a lot of poor do live town. It's difficult for people to want admit that.
Wrong. Plenty of working people are trying to get into NYCHA but those who are in homeless shelters or in a domestic abuse situation get N1 priority status and get apartments soon. So many folks who are working low income to even a certain degree middle income jobs are trying to get into NYCHA that it will take forever for many to get in.
Wrong. Plenty of working people are trying to get into NYCHA but those who are in homeless shelters or in a domestic abuse situation get N1 priority status and get apartments soon. So many folks who are working low income to even a certain degree middle income jobs are trying to get into NYCHA that it will take forever for many to get in.
Right again. I have pointed this out before.
I know because I have sometimes worked in women's groups, helping women in the shelters and domestic violence victims.
The system is very much stacked against working- and middle-class people who fall on hard times.
The part about there being few low income housing opportunities is also completely wrong. Even many of the affordable lotteries are for people who make $20,000 (or even less) - $30,000. And the lotteries are just one option. There are the HOME programs, mixed-income buildings - not just 80/20s - and many more. The social service organizations have partnered with HPD and taken over buildings, which they fill with people who cannot gain acceptance from NYCHA given criminal records or whatever else. Nor are these buildings just in "bad" areas.
Many of those people were replaced by midwesterners and new immigrants.
Just like Bloomberg and his cronies wanted.
We got the drabbest, blandest, most dorky of the midwestern populace, while Los Angeles got the cool, hip and attractive people,
There used to be a lot of good looking people here once upon a time.
The male gay population still attracts handsome men though. Lucky bastards.
NY people are not so good looking. I knew a woman in my neighborhood who wanted to do playboy. She transplanted to LA about a decade ago and ended doing porn. She can really take it. She was not pretty enough for Playboy though because she lacked symmetry in her face like most native NY people. If anything LA probably attracts plenty of dumb people. On the bright side most transplants here think they are hip, intelligent, sophisticated, quirky, witty and again intelligent, but truthfully pretentious.
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Originally Posted by Henna
Some are fleeing, while new ones arrive to take their place. I don't see the data as being so alarming or worthy of exclamation points. People live in NYC while it suits them, for example, for career opportunities. If people don't have strong roots here, then for many there's no reason to stay in one of the most expensive places in the country if their job situation changes, or if they have kids and can no longer afford the space they need.
I don't think it comes as any surprise to anyone that NYC is not middle-class-family friendly.
I agree with this. NYC does a good job at replacing people. People come and also people go. Its really hard to get correct data on the difference of how many come and how many left.
Ahh the old argument if you leave, it's bc you can't cut it. Sometimes, it's far from being poor, but due to quality of life.
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Originally Posted by NyWriterdude
If they are having difficulty in making ends meet, they are POOR.............
And yes NYC's population has been growing.
The people who do get welfare in NYC can't just get an apartment tomorrow. It could take you years to get a place in NYCHA, and Section 8 has been closed in NYC every since 2009. Very few new welfare apartments are available in Manhattan or much of Brooklyn or Queens except the worst neighborhoods.
So yes a lot of poor do live town. It's difficult for people to want admit that.
Wrong. Plenty of working people are trying to get into NYCHA but those who are in homeless shelters or in a domestic abuse situation get N1 priority status and get apartments soon. So many folks who are working low income to even a certain degree middle income jobs are trying to get into NYCHA that it will take forever for many to get in.
Obviously those working people trying to get into NYCHA are poor. You just can't admit that a person with a job can still be poor. It also sounds like you're jealous of battered women or those in shelters too.
What would happen if a person who works in retail (for example) lost his or her job? I doubt they would be able to save much money. Rather quickly they would end up on social services. There is actually very little separation between working class people and those on welfare. Long term difficulties in finding a job, a major illness, etc could send anyone to the welfare system.
NYC is getting rid of a lot of it's poor people and other undesirables and dumping them in certain Southern states. Of course this won't be good for the Southern states that take in these people.
The old people who go to the South to retire are low income. The Southern states will eventually have to raise taxes to cover the medicaid and social services expenses.
New York is not dumping people anywhere, even tho it is making it easy for people to want to and many times giving people no other choice, because of the economy, than to move. People leave on their own and go where they want to go. You should watch how you say things, because it can be very disrespectful and agitating the way you try to score reputation points.
I would have to agree with you. We haven't heard the last of him on this thread, as he always insists on getting the last word. LOL
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