Bay Ridge vs. Astoria (New York, Union: middle-class, apartments, rent stabilized apartments)

[funcrusher3000]

Very similar neighborhoods with similar vibes. The types of businesses that line 3rd/5th ave and Broadway/Ditmars are very comparable....lots independently owned restuarants, diners, bakeries and bars.

I can think of a number of businesses that exist both in Bay Ridge and Astoria....two that come to mind are Ommonia Cafe, Burger Bistro.

Biggest difference is that parts of Astoria have a more prevalent Greek feel than Bay Ridge, which is more Italian/Irish. But both areas have middle-eastern and Asian influences.

[ShirlMastic Beach]

Originally Posted by BSL1534

Astoria also has about half the population of Bay Ridge, and Bay Ridge is much denser---50% more people per square mile.

I think you have this backwards. Census has Astoria at 154,141 total population vs Bay Ridge with only 79,371. And if you exclude the industrial areas of Astoria, it is definitely denser than Bay Ridge.

[nei]

Originally Posted by G-Dale

I think you have this backwards. Census has Astoria at 154,141 total population vs Bay Ridge with only 79,371. And if you exclude the industrial areas of Astoria, it is definitely denser than Bay Ridge.

From City Data: Bayridge 45,000 per square mile. CityData doesn't have reasonable boundaries for Astoria, but the area south of I-278 including Long Island City and industrial areas is 37,000 per square mile.. From population density maps, they look a bit close. Astoria south / west of I-278 looks denser than the other side, not sure how much of that counts as Long Island City. The area surrounding near 4th ave or north of about 70th street in Bay Ridge is rather dense. Both neighborhoods have areas with houses (mostly attached) and areas with apartment blocks. Astoria looks like it has a higher range.

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[nei]

Originally Posted by brooklynmama0217

Yuppies are professional young people who go to jobs that they have to wear suits too. Hipsters are usually "artists" with liberal arts degrees who sleep till noon

Or hipsters are those with jobs (usually that don't require suits — plenty of good office jobs don't) that dress in hipster style off hours and have those tastes.

[nei]

Originally Posted by brooklynmama0217

If you're not a NYer and want hipster things, I don't see the appeal. There isn't many trendy things there and it's on the slowest subway line the R

On the plus side, your chances of getting a seat on the R are good, better than in Astoria. R isn't that bad if going only to downtown Manhattan, and you can switch to an express N.

[Gantz]

Originally Posted by G-Dale

I think you have this backwards. Census has Astoria at 154,141 total population vs Bay Ridge with only 79,371. And if you exclude the industrial areas of Astoria, it is definitely denser than Bay Ridge.

Thats just because Astoria has a lot of land area. Bay Ridge is deceptively dense. Keep in mind that it also borders Sunset park..the only neighborhood in Queens that even comes close to that density is probably Flushing.

Houses in Bay ridge by the water look a lot nicer too imo (well... except that all-marble house). Old Italian mafia houses.

[DoomDan515]

They are both very good neighborhoods. I personally prefer Bay Ridge, but Astoria is great too. Love Astoria Park, one of my favorite parks in the whole city.

For Bay Ridge, my favorite section is the area south of 86 street and near Shore Road. For Astoria, I highly recommend the area around Ditmars near 31 street

[ShirlMastic Beach]

Originally Posted by Gantz

Thats just because Astoria has a lot of land area. Bay Ridge is deceptively dense. Keep in mind that it also borders Sunset park..the only neighborhood in Queens that even comes close to that density is probably Flushing.

I'd say Jackson Heights is more dense. Same can be said for parts of Woodside, Elmhurst, Forest Hills and Ridgewood. As well as Astoria. You can't include industrial zones and cemeteries as part of the land mass when making the comparison.

[ShirlMastic Beach]

Originally Posted by nei

From City Data: Bayridge 45,000 per square mile. CityData doesn't have reasonable boundaries for Astoria, but the area south of I-278 including Long Island City and industrial areas is 37,000 per square mile.. From population density maps, they look a bit close. Astoria south / west of I-278 looks denser than the other side, not sure how much of that counts as Long Island City. The area surrounding near 4th ave or north of about 70th street in Bay Ridge is rather dense. Both neighborhoods have areas with houses (mostly attached) and areas with apartment blocks. Astoria looks like it has a higher range.

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I'd say Astoria is everything north of 36th ave and west of the BQE. My population figure doesn't even include Ravenswood, which I'd say is also part of Astoria. Ditmars is also a section of Astoria (area north of the triboro).

[ShirlMastic Beach]

Both 11102 and 11103 are more dense than both 11209 and 11220. 11106 has similar density as 11220, but slightly less.