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Old 04-28-2015, 02:04 PM
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The NYPD pays well without a 4 year college degree. I believe they only need a 60 college credits from any community/junior college. Decent pay and benefits for those without any skills or training.
The OP doesn't seem like the type of person who actually wants to put hard work into something.
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Old 04-28-2015, 02:21 PM
 
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What are the odds of getting these jobs and/or how long do you have to linger in the bottom end entry level civil service jobs till you can get a shot at these?

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Garbage men can make around 100K a year (fairly dangerous, you have a point)

Train Operators and conductors (MTA civil service workers) make 35/Hr at top pay. That doesn't include O/T, night differential, etc.

Rail Road engineers make around 90K a year without O/T among-st other factors, and I think conductors make about 10K less, but they prefer college experience over sheer work experience.

To the OP, I was in the same position as you last year, but I've decided to go to a CUNY. Don't limit yourself.
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Old 04-28-2015, 02:22 PM
 
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Selling what? And what percentage succeeded. Sales always struck me as a job where only a small percentage of people had the personality to make it work.

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sales !

sales can earn big money . i am in a technical field and we have had picker packers learn the business ,go out on the road eventually as outside sales people and earn 200k plus a year incomes.
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Old 04-28-2015, 02:24 PM
 
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Go to a trade school, you can do fairly well.
Yes, but do an apprenticeship. I dont think you need formal school to be licensed to practice.

Also dont sanitation workers make good money?
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Old 04-28-2015, 02:26 PM
 
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Be a landlord, this way you can be your own boss and you don't have to do much but collect rent.
Yes, yes this too.
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Old 04-28-2015, 02:35 PM
 
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The NYPD pays well without a 4 year college degree. I believe they only need a 60 college credits from any community/junior college. Decent pay and benefits for those without any skills or training.

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The OP doesn't seem like the type of person who actually wants to put hard work into something.
You're right! It takes great effort, dedication and strict discipline to be a crook.
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Old 04-28-2015, 03:32 PM
 
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The same non-degree jobs are available here as anywhere else: waiter, shoe salesman, carpenter, whatever.

However, it's not a good idea to come here without education and skills - unless you have tons of money. And, by the way, most people who are self-employed get that way after many years of working for someone else, learning skills, learning a business. Anyone who has problems with authority shouldn't come here.
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Old 04-28-2015, 04:04 PM
 
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What are the odds of getting these jobs and/or how long do you have to linger in the bottom end entry level civil service jobs till you can get a shot at these?
You need to score atleast a 95% on the open competitive test to become a civil service conductor. The tests come out every 4 years and there's one scheduled for later this year.

To become a civil service train op a 95% is ideal, but I've seen people with less than that get called, a test should come out next year, but you need 5 years of work experience, 4 of which can be substituted with 30 college credits.

Garbage man, you need a perfect score.

Railroading, you need to have a well rounded background. They have multiple positions yearly.

It's not impossible, but the odds are stacked against the OP.
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Old 04-28-2015, 04:06 PM
 
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The NYPD pays well without a 4 year college degree. I believe they only need a 60 college credits from any community/junior college. Decent pay and benefits for those without any skills or training.
You'll need more than 60 credits if you want to promote though. You'll also need a B.A if you want to go higher than sergeant.
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Old 04-28-2015, 07:13 PM
 
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The NYPD pays well without a 4 year college degree. I believe they only need a 60 college credits from any community/junior college. Decent pay and benefits for those without any skills or training.
He basically said he doesn't want to do any college. Someone else just said you'll need more than 60 credits if you want to promote and certain positions require a BA.

So the OP (who likely isn't coming to NYC) will likely have to work in retail, food service, or labor.
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