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I think the one major driving factor for my dream to live there is just the overall "city-ness" of it. Miami may be a global city, but it is hardly walkable (unless you're on South Beach, which is all tourists anyways). I enjoy the urban environment where I work right now (Brickell/Downtown Miami), but it is really not a very big area at all. I know there is a lot of stuff in the pipeline that will contribute, but getting around is still a huge issue. There is no public transit besides the metro rail, so you need a car to do literally anything here. This results in wayyy more people in their cars on the road than people walking on the streets. I guess this is what takes away from any energetic vibes - everyone is so disconnected from each other. Not saying I enjoy a packed subway either, but walkability is hardly as prevalent in Miami as many may think.
You contradict yourself in whether you want to work hard or stay on the beach. Why does it matter we have harsh winters in NY? You're in the office working and trying to get ahead. Like you said, once you get your career established, by all means go down to sunny Miami and enjoy yourself.
Thanks for all of the responses guys. Like I said, people who visit Miami and people who actually grow up here have vastly different opinions about this city.
As far as the comments about cost of living, everything is just as overpriced here too. At least in NYC wages are higher and somewhat make up for it.
As for the people, it may be that I am surrounding myself with the wrong ones right now, but I just feel that the common denominator here is so much lower than it is in NYC. People there are driven and ambitious. People here are lazy and either live off mommy and daddy money or take up bull**** jobs just to get by their entire lives. I just don't feel any drive down here. I used to think that living in Miami, being so close to wealth, would ultimately motivate me to achieve it. But the fact of the matter is its just annoying and distracting because no one seems to have worked for any of it.
I love the ocean and beaches. But I also love the hype and architecture and stimulation of NYC. I know there's no way to decide besides going myself and actually imagining myself living there, and I plan to do that. But I figured I would see what you guys, who actually do live there, thiHk.
There are a lot of people in NYC that fit this criteria. What are you talking about???
I guess this is what takes away from any energetic vibes - everyone is so disconnected from each other.
Sorry to say, but in my experience living here in NY its tough to build solid relationships since many people here are in a Rush. You have people working 2-3 Jobs just to keep up with cost of living.
Sorry to say, but in my experience living here in NY its tough to build solid relationships since many people here are in a Rush. You have people working 2-3 Jobs just to keep up with cost of living.
Not to mention its a very transient city as well. People come and go faster than most cities.
There are a lot of people in NYC that fit this criteria. What are you talking about???
Agreed, but NYC is not a place you can stick around for too long if you're lazy. At least not as long as I see some people in Miami.
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Not to mention its a very transient city as well. People come and go faster than most cities.
I'm not saying I'd be up there the rest of my life either. I guess I see it as more of something that I need to experience for at least some period in my life.
New York is a far greater and more desirable city than Miami. Especially for anyone below 55 years of age. Miami isn't as sophisticated, simulating, as exciting or dynamic as New York. And the job market is bleak. Too slave-wage.
I absolutely loved living in New York (lived there for 5 years), I've been to Miami too many times to count and I couldn't imagine living there. I find it dull. I wouldn't even describe Miami as a city for people "made it" either, as it has very low levels of wealth for all of the hype and glam. It simply attracts a lot of tourists who like to spend. I can't think of a single mega-wealthy idle rich trust funder/public figure that actually lives there.. mostly seem to live in New York City or LA (i.e. Rotschild offspring and various unemployed trust funders of European nobility). These places are more well-rounded and more suitable for living. Miami (Beach) is more suitable for a getaway during the winter. The rest of the city might as well be Havana.
Miami is largely a place of snow birds, penniless immigrants and retirees who are living out their "golden years" before they die. From what my wealthy New York 20s, 30s friends tell me - it's a cool place to visit during the winter then they literally abandon the city until the next winter arrives. They would lose their minds if they had to actually stay permanently.
But of course, most of the above is only relevant for those in a certain income bracket. For everyone else, Miami has an extreme deficiency of upwardly mobile, highly compensated, ambitious young people. New York is crawling with these types, as well as others, which makes it a more interesting city. I'm 28, so probably around the same age as you, and have always had that hunger and I will tell you to go for it. Most people posting on this forum are working-class types who probably want something different than you do.
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New York is a far greater and more desirable city than Miami. Especially for anyone below 55 years of age. Miami isn't as sophisticated, simulating, as exciting or dynamic as New York. And the job market is bleak. Too slave-wage.
I absolutely loved living in New York (lived there for 5 years), I've been to Miami too many times to count and I couldn't imagine living there. I find it dull. I wouldn't even describe Miami as a city for people "made it" either, as it has very low levels of wealth for all of the hype and glam. It simply attracts a lot of tourists who like to spend. I can't think of a single mega-wealthy idle rich trust funder/public figure that actually lives there.. mostly seem to live in New York City or LA (i.e. Rotschild offspring and various unemployed trust funders of European nobility). These places are more well-rounded and more suitable for living. Miami (Beach) is more suitable for a getaway during the winter. The rest of the city might as well be Havana.
Miami is largely a place of snow birds, penniless immigrants and retirees who are living out their "golden years" before they die. From what my wealthy New York 20s, 30s friends tell me - it's a cool place to visit during the winter then they literally abandon the city until the next winter arrives. They would lose their minds if they had to actually stay permanently.
But of course, most of the above is only relevant for those in a certain income bracket. For everyone else, Miami has an extreme deficiency of upwardly mobile, highly compensated, ambitious young people. New York is crawling with these types, as well as others, which makes it a more interesting city. I'm 28, so probably around the same age as you, and have always had that hunger and I will tell you to go for it. Most people posting on this forum are working-class types who probably want something different than you do.
You nailed it right on the head. I just returned from spending the 4th of July holiday up there (got an AirBNB in Chelsea - i wanted a real NYC experience, not a hotel) and I didn't want to come back. I find myself increasingly bothered by things down here and the overall dullness of it all. I don't hate Miami. I'm just over it. I don't want to get too ahead of myself and fall into an anxiously depressed state, but I'm ideally planning to start interviewing for jobs in January (Have to stick around here for more work experience and that year-end bonus, of course). I know it's never too early to start networking. Not trying to make this another "moving to NYC" thread, but any advice that stands out in your heads? I greatly appreciate it!
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