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Old 10-09-2015, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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Most people living in NYC don't have the time or the money to truly experience the "quantity" of the city. Thus making it a moot point to the vast majority of people living here.

Like I said earlier in this thread. NYC is the best place to be rich, a college student or a tourist. Otherwise, it has little edge over other cities if any. If you can't afford to experience the city or don't have the time to experience the city.. what good are these extra "options" anyway? They are really not options if you don't have access to them.
This is very true. To be honest only those with money and transient types are the ones that truly enjoy what the city has to offer. To be honeset I don't really care for much venues and certain types of offerings to cater to a certain niche demographic.
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Old 10-09-2015, 11:00 PM
 
Location: NYC metro area
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Most people living in NYC don't have the time or the money to truly experience the "quantity" of the city. Thus making it a moot point to the vast majority of people living here.

Like I said earlier in this thread. NYC is the best place to be rich, a college student or a tourist. Otherwise, it has little edge over other cities if any. If you can't afford to experience the city or don't have the time to experience the city.. what good are these extra "options" anyway? They are really not options if you don't have access to them.
I don't agree...I have friends who aren't rich or college students or tourists, who are artists, making money at their art, enjoying and loving life in NYC. This statement is hugely negative--basically you're saying you can't enjoy life or experience fun/interesting/exciting things while living in NYC (in this case, what NYC has to offer) unless you're rich? Life is what you make it - sure, being rich makes it a hell of a lot easier in many cases, but even someone who doesn't have much money can still be happy and do things if they live in NYC. It's all about your attitude and perspective, and how you manage your time and money, etc.
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Old 10-12-2015, 11:54 AM
 
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Most people living in NYC don't have the time or the money to truly experience the "quantity" of the city. Thus making it a moot point to the vast majority of people living here.

Like I said earlier in this thread. NYC is the best place to be rich, a college student or a tourist. Otherwise, it has little edge over other cities if any. If you can't afford to experience the city or don't have the time to experience the city.. what good are these extra "options" anyway? They are really not options if you don't have access to them.
1) I know a number of working people with ordinary means/livelihoods who live in the city (mostly in Brooklyn/Queens because of finances) who do take advantage of exactly the kinds of things that I described.

2) Many of these opportunities (essentially, the chance to participate in a variety of vibrant, active intellectual/social/cultural communities) are free, or cheap. Sure, you can blow as much money as you want, but there are tons of affordable things to do in NY daily.

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To be honeset I don't really care for much venues and certain types of offerings to cater to a certain niche demographic.
The fact that you're not interested in them doesn't mean that they don't exist (and aren't much better developed in NYC than in other, smaller American cities-thus distinguishing it as offering something unique and hard to come by elsewhere).
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Old 10-12-2015, 11:58 AM
 
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I don't agree...I have friends who aren't rich or college students or tourists, who are artists, making money at their art, enjoying and loving life in NYC. This statement is hugely negative--basically you're saying you can't enjoy life or experience fun/interesting/exciting things while living in NYC (in this case, what NYC has to offer) unless you're rich? Life is what you make it - sure, being rich makes it a hell of a lot easier in many cases, but even someone who doesn't have much money can still be happy and do things if they live in NYC. It's all about your attitude and perspective, and how you manage your time and money, etc.
It's also about priorities. If your passion is hiking/mountain biking/hunting or something outdoors, NYC is probably not the best choice for you. If your desire is for a green lawn, picket fence, and low cost of living obviously NYC isn't for you, positive attitude aside. The people who choose to live/remain in the city value other things. A simple supply/demand perspective sums it up: would prices (the demand) to live in NYC be so high if it didn't offer some kind of compelling value proposition?
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Old 10-12-2015, 07:29 PM
 
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I don't agree...I have friends who aren't rich or college students or tourists, who are artists, making money at their art, enjoying and loving life in NYC. This statement is hugely negative--basically you're saying you can't enjoy life or experience fun/interesting/exciting things while living in NYC (in this case, what NYC has to offer) unless you're rich? Life is what you make it - sure, being rich makes it a hell of a lot easier in many cases, but even someone who doesn't have much money can still be happy and do things if they live in NYC. It's all about your attitude and perspective, and how you manage your time and money, etc.
I didn't say its not possible to enjoy living in NYC. I am saying.. the arguments people present about NYC having more options than other cities doesn't really matter much to most people living in NYC since they don't have the time or money to explore all these options.

At the end of the day.. most people living in NYC will experience as much in NYC as they would living in a city with less options. Simply because of the time and money factor. And when people finally go on vacation.. they usually go somewhere else. They don't use their vacation time to explore the city they already live in.
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Old 10-12-2015, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Between the Bays
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I didn't say its not possible to enjoy living in NYC. I am saying.. the arguments people present about NYC having more options than other cities doesn't really matter much to most people living in NYC since they don't have the time or money to explore all these options.

At the end of the day.. most people living in NYC will experience as much in NYC as they would living in a city with less options. Simply because of the time and money factor. And when people finally go on vacation.. they usually go somewhere else. They don't use their vacation time to explore the city they already live in.
You must know a lot of people in NYC. Probably close to 9 million people or so. Else this is just your opinion. Weird that you'd even care about people living in NYC. You must be some loser living in some boring city with nothing to do in it to maintain this thread on another cities forum.
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Old 10-12-2015, 08:02 PM
 
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1) I know a number of working people with ordinary means/livelihoods who live in the city (mostly in Brooklyn/Queens because of finances) who do take advantage of exactly the kinds of things that I described.

2) Many of these opportunities (essentially, the chance to participate in a variety of vibrant, active intellectual/social/cultural communities) are free, or cheap. Sure, you can blow as much money as you want, but there are tons of affordable things to do in NY daily.



The fact that you're not interested in them doesn't mean that they don't exist (and aren't much better developed in NYC than in other, smaller American cities-thus distinguishing it as offering something unique and hard to come by elsewhere).
+1

especially point #2
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Old 10-12-2015, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NYC
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I didn't say its not possible to enjoy living in NYC. I am saying.. the arguments people present about NYC having more options than other cities doesn't really matter much to most people living in NYC since they don't have the time or money to explore all these options.

At the end of the day.. most people living in NYC will experience as much in NYC as they would living in a city with less options. Simply because of the time and money factor. And when people finally go on vacation.. they usually go somewhere else. They don't use their vacation time to explore the city they already live in.
But you can't pretend as if we don't have ACCESS to some of the best in the world. If someone wanted to experience The Met, as one example, they could. It's literally too many free attractions/low fees to mention. Even seeing something as iconic as the Empire State Building daily is a plus for many.

To insinuate the options we have as being just like living in a city with less options is false because they simply don't have that access.
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Old 10-13-2015, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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I didn't say its not possible to enjoy living in NYC. I am saying.. the arguments people present about NYC having more options than other cities doesn't really matter much to most people living in NYC since they don't have the time or money to explore all these options.

At the end of the day.. most people living in NYC will experience as much in NYC as they would living in a city with less options. Simply because of the time and money factor. And when people finally go on vacation.. they usually go somewhere else. They don't use their vacation time to explore the city they already live in.
This is very true from my observation and experience as a native New Yorker. I don't explore the city as much and I don't see any novelty to do so. Even though I have the time to check out and see what is going on, its the money factor that holds me back from exploring the city. Also true, when vacation time comes around I explore else were, either checking out other regions of the country or I go and visit either Latin America or the Caribbean.


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You must know a lot of people in NYC. Probably close to 9 million people or so. Else this is just your opinion. Weird that you'd even care about people living in NYC. You must be some loser living in some boring city with nothing to do in it to maintain this thread on another cities forum.
I think is opinion is on point not only with me but with others that I know. Even though I love NYC, I don't see any novelty to explore the city no more. Maybe if I was a transplant or an expat, I would be singing a different tune about NYC. However I was told its always good to create outings in the city at times. I haven't been to the Bronx Z00 and the Coney Island Aquarium in nearly 20 years, or even walked across the Brooklyn Bridge, or visited the statue of liberty in the longest. However I would prefer to do such hobbies if I had a family.
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Old 10-13-2015, 09:16 PM
 
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You must know a lot of people in NYC. Probably close to 9 million people or so. Else this is just your opinion. Weird that you'd even care about people living in NYC. You must be some loser living in some boring city with nothing to do in it to maintain this thread on another cities forum.
Nope.

Are you mad? You sound mad.
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