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Old 09-19-2016, 08:50 PM
 
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So there's no poor door in this building.. Affordable apts are the same as market apts. because in twenty years all affordable apts become market apts. I read that recently. I'm reading every possible thing on this building. You do have to pay extra for amenities, like the bike room, gym..
Every unit comes with washer and dryer so probably no laundry room.
I also learned that affordable apts have to be evenly spread out with the market apts so that tenants don't know who's paying less. Which is very fair. And gives us common people, a chance at a view or even a balcony!
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Old 09-20-2016, 07:53 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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So there's no poor door in this building.. Affordable apts are the same as market apts. because in twenty years all affordable apts become market apts. I read that recently. I'm reading every possible thing on this building. You do have to pay extra for amenities, like the bike room, gym..
Every unit comes with washer and dryer so probably no laundry room.
I also learned that affordable apts have to be evenly spread out with the market apts so that tenants don't know who's paying less. Which is very fair. And gives us common people, a chance at a view or even a balcony!

I know plenty of people who wouldn't consider this fair. Recently, I told a woman at work about my application to a middle income housing lottery (bad move) and she complained, "why should we be punished by paying more for an apartment other people can get for a fraction of the price for? We work hard and pay for our education so that we can afford a place like this" She said, "Call me a snob, but this is what I believe"

But, not everyone who is able to pay 4K of rent for a one bedroom, made it rich by themselves. Many people inherit wealth from their parents that allow them to go to college, live well, etc. I am not a socialist, but neither do I think that we should ignore "the other half" of people and make them continue to live in substandard housing and poverty.
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Old 09-20-2016, 09:59 PM
 
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I get what you're saying. I was responding to someone asking if this building had a poor door like the the one on the uws that was on the news. That building made you feel
Different and that you dont belong.
So
It's nice to hear no other buildings are doing that. And if they follow the guidelines that I mentioned above, the affordable units should be spread out so no one really knows.
I'm kind of private about applying. People are always quick to judge. I haven't been given any free passes in life, and am still paying off school loans. Obviously applicants need to fit the income requirements, and I do. So no one should judge me for applying. But you can't help negativity from other people. I guess that's why I keep this kind of stuff to myself, or with you strangers, since you're probably in the same boat!
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Old 09-21-2016, 12:11 AM
 
Location: Harlem, NY
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There should be no 'poor door', no clause stating that the developer has to build another building for affordable units, no separate entrances, no subtraction of amenities. none of it in these lotteries. u get in, u get in.
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Old 09-22-2016, 12:44 AM
 
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Omg I had a similar reaction from one my close friends. I was expecting him to be happy for me but instead he was so upset and went on a rant about how unfair it is. He said that those tenants (meaning potentially me??!) pee in the elevators like in the projects and that it's wrong that people paying such high rent should have to live in a building with people "who don't know how to behave." I had so much to say to him about his comments, we actually ended up not talking for almost a month because of it. It's like bringing up politics. It should just be avoided and kept to yourself. This is someone I trust, who'd want the best for me, and still I got that sort of reaction; I learned my lesson with that one. Even if I actually end up moving into an apartment, people are just going to have to wonder how I'm affording the rent because I'm not telling.

Btw, another close friend of mine lives in a building which is entirely lottery apartments (about 40+ units) and this building is always clean and safe with no loitering etc. The strict screening and filtering that's done to get a lottery apartment serves a purpose. I'm sure that if anyone is peeing in the elevators there's an equal (to be fair) chance that it was say one of the college boys living there on payed-by-parents rent as that it was one of the affordable housing tenants.
There are people who "don't know how to behave" in all social, racial, cultural, age, and even educational groups. Really, it's hard to tell who's what.
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Old 09-24-2016, 09:44 AM
 
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Omg I had a similar reaction from one my close friends. I was expecting him to be happy for me but instead he was so upset and went on a rant about how unfair it is. He said that those tenants (meaning potentially me??!) pee in the elevators like in the projects and that it's wrong that people paying such high rent should have to live in a building with people "who don't know how to behave." I had so much to say to him about his comments, we actually ended up not talking for almost a month because of it. It's like bringing up politics. It should just be avoided and kept to yourself. This is someone I trust, who'd want the best for me, and still I got that sort of reaction; I learned my lesson with that one. Even if I actually end up moving into an apartment, people are just going to have to wonder how I'm affording the rent because I'm not telling.

Btw, another close friend of mine lives in a building which is entirely lottery apartments (about 40+ units) and this building is always clean and safe with no loitering etc. The strict screening and filtering that's done to get a lottery apartment serves a purpose. I'm sure that if anyone is peeing in the elevators there's an equal (to be fair) chance that it was say one of the college boys living there on payed-by-parents rent as that it was one of the affordable housing tenants.
There are people who "don't know how to behave" in all social, racial, cultural, age, and even educational groups. Really, it's hard to tell who's what.
I absolutely agree. I currently live in an affordable and very diverse building. It is always clean and my neighbors are not only educated but they are respectful and look out for each other at times. It's really sad that someone can be that ignorant. Anyways passed by the building the other day, saw a lamborghini in the entrance so it is an impressive place to live. I applied because i'm looking to be in a different location but I would say that the management companies know what they are they doing when they are choosing their tenants.
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Old 09-24-2016, 06:33 PM
 
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Hi guys,

I just received a letter for an interview and I am really excited and nervous. My credit score is very poor with a bunch of student loans, and my income is above what income requirement should be (which is what I put on the actual application). My interview is in 2 weeks and I'm wondering if there is a chance of still getting in?
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Old 09-24-2016, 07:14 PM
 
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If I were you, I would gather up all the documents requested and go on the interview. Dress nicely, and don't volunteer any information unless asked. How are you figuring that your income is over?
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Old 09-24-2016, 08:55 PM
 
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Unless you've been late with student loan payments or defaulted, it shouldn't be a problem on your credit report, unless it's really throwing off your income to debt ratio. You can pull your report yourself for free from several sites, which I recommend doing so you that you know exactly what it says (the marketing agent won't accept your copy, but at least you'll know). Your income has to fit exactly into the brackets for your household size. There's a good report on Housing Connect about how it's calculated, and some good posts about it on CD, but it can still be fuzzy. Definitely go on the interview and give them what they ask for. They also look at your assets, and a percentage gets added to your income. I think I applied for this development too, but I'm not in the community board, and I believe, as usual, that I have a high number. Good luck.
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Old 09-24-2016, 08:59 PM
 
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If I were you, I would gather up all the documents requested and go on the interview. Dress nicely, and don't volunteer any information unless asked. How are you figuring that your income is over?
Because its more than the Annual Household Earning that's listed on the Unit Requirements. I'm going to go to the interview and continue praying that the "**** Subject to Change" applies.
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