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Old 10-22-2015, 10:42 AM
 
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Actually, what is needed is more entrepreneurship in low income Black and Hispanic communites. There's no point in going to college if you can't get a job when you get out. When one talks of structural economic reforms, there needs to be more of a focus on new buisness creation by low income/minority groups. Haven't you ever noticed that in even the deepest ghettos it's mostly immigrants who run the buisnesses and not locals? What's needed is more low-cost business loans to get people making start-ups and stores.
Hispanics own tons of businesses
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Old 10-22-2015, 10:45 AM
 
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Lets recap. Didn't some poster on another thread say that East Harlem is or was gentrifying. This area is very hood and more hood than hood parts of Bronx or Brooklyn.
I would guess that the lower part of it is gentrifying
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Old 10-22-2015, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Harlem, NY
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Lets recap. Didn't some poster on another thread say that East Harlem is or was gentrifying. This area is very hood and more hood than hood parts of Bronx or Brooklyn.
East Harlem IS gentrifying. They've got million dollar condos across the street from Wilson and east river projects. Some new ones on 3rd avenue. Hunter school of social work newly constructed. Now while it hasn't completely gentrified, it's well on its way. I believe people are waiting for phase II of the SAS to be completed, which will no doubt spur new investment, development and amenities, before they make the move
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Old 10-22-2015, 01:23 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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What are you even talking about? There is no such thing as welfare anymore, there is workfare and disability income. People have to work for pennies who live in poverty. The hundreds of thousands of people who live in NYCHA cannot afford to pay your "real rent." While a realistic minimum wage would help, it doesn't matter if there are not the educaitonal and vocational opportunities in these communities! We need free public college, and public works programs that pay a living wage that can fix our crumbling infrastructure.
Agree.
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Old 10-22-2015, 01:24 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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Society is broken. Been broken for a long time. I am speaking as a father.
Here, since the mid-1990s I think.
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Old 10-22-2015, 02:53 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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Society is in the toilet. The dregs of humanity are championed by everyone with a voice, opposition is silenced and ridiculed, and deviance is the expected norm. A reckoning is due. I can't wait.
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Old 10-22-2015, 02:57 PM
 
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Every (Cop vs Suspect/Assailant) case has to be judged individually based on the facts...If the BLM movement is just going to cry victim every time a Black person (and only when it's a Black victim) is killed by a cop regardless of the circumstances surrounding the encounter than they are just as racist/moronic as any White power hate group...

And they shouldn't be taken seriously by ANY political official....let alone powerful political officials like the major....No one should give them any credibility....

This was a career criminal (20 prior arrests) who killed a Cop while trying to evade arrest from a robbery he had just committed...Who (unless you are a blatant Black racist/Cop hater) would ever support that person over an officer or be happy that the Cop was killed?? This wasn't Walter Scott....It was the complete opposite case...It was a Cop who was tragically killed while trying to arrest a scourge/threat to society...

The real non-racists are the ones who judge each case individually and come to a conclusion based on the facts of that particular case.....Anyone who always takes the Cops (or the White/Black person) side or the "victims" side every single time is a racist moron...
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Old 10-22-2015, 04:04 PM
 
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lol so according to one guys twitter account? not to mention your source "Liberty Unyielding" is a right-wing blog/tabloid where titles like "federal gov't fund play about about gay president who fights zombies!" real trust worthy source you got there buddy.
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Old 10-22-2015, 04:15 PM
 
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Actually, what is needed is more entrepreneurship in low income Black and Hispanic communites. There's no point in going to college if you can't get a job when you get out. When one talks of structural economic reforms, there needs to be more of a focus on new buisness creation by low income/minority groups. Haven't you ever noticed that in even the deepest ghettos it's mostly immigrants who run the buisnesses and not locals? What's needed is more low-cost business loans to get people making start-ups and stores.
This won't work because the stage of capitalism that we are currently in rewards big business and will eventually replace all small business with big centralized box stores owned by corporations. This is because they have more efficient distribution networks and can provide the same products for cheaper. As a result telling more black and hispanic people to "go open up bodegas" sets communities up for failure. In fact neighborhoods across the city are covered with little stores owned by families who've been sold the logic that they can make a living by owning a small store. Many of these family owned businesses are going out of business because greedy landlords are taking advantage of gentrification. Bodegas unlike apartments have no rent stabilization laws.

But anyway I just don't buy this whole, everyone should be a business owner crap. This whole line telling people to go out there and sell avon products lol because you are your own boss. Another reality here is that these communities have limited disposible income to spend in stores, restaurants, bars etc.. which is why no one takes the risk to do business in these areas.

We need to bring back industry, and build infrastructure in poor areas. We need to promote trade school and degrees like engineer, nursing, medicine, teachers, social work, etc.. degrees that train students for careers. Too many students going to college are philosophy majors lol.

I really think the economy in poor areas needs to be more centrally planned. There needs to be hospitals, schools, factories built to provide jobs and services and make these areas more attractive. Really for me the biggest mistake was the loss of industry in New York City that has made major contributions to urban decay.
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Old 10-22-2015, 05:04 PM
 
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This won't work because the stage of capitalism that we are currently in rewards big business and will eventually replace all small business with big centralized box stores owned by corporations. This is because they have more efficient distribution networks and can provide the same products for cheaper. As a result telling more black and hispanic people to "go open up bodegas" sets communities up for failure. In fact neighborhoods across the city are covered with little stores owned by families who've been sold the logic that they can make a living by owning a small store. Many of these family owned businesses are going out of business because greedy landlords are taking advantage of gentrification. Bodegas unlike apartments have no rent stabilization laws.

But anyway I just don't buy this whole, everyone should be a business owner crap. This whole line telling people to go out there and sell avon products lol because you are your own boss. Another reality here is that these communities have limited disposible income to spend in stores, restaurants, bars etc.. which is why no one takes the risk to do business in these areas.

We need to bring back industry, and build infrastructure in poor areas. We need to promote trade school and degrees like engineer, nursing, medicine, teachers, social work, etc.. degrees that train students for careers. Too many students going to college are philosophy majors lol.

I really think the economy in poor areas needs to be more centrally planned. There needs to be hospitals, schools, factories built to provide jobs and services and make these areas more attractive. Really for me the biggest mistake was the loss of industry in New York City that has made major contributions to urban decay.
But Hispanic people do own A LOT of bodegas, almost all of the bodegas around me are owned by Hispanics
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