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Old 11-12-2015, 09:56 AM
 
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White people are still broke, though working their whole lives for the white man. They just have this fake sense of happiness and wealth. Blacks built the city so will always live in the city. No matter how expensive it gets, black people always find ways to survive. NYC still remains the most populated city and metro area for blacks in the usa.
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Old 11-12-2015, 10:40 AM
 
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The bigger is, the number of black men in the city who are unemployed.
Moving elsewhere won't magically get them jobs if they are unemployed here.
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Old 11-12-2015, 10:44 AM
 
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But is she able to save any of the extra money that she earns in NYC? I ask because the rent in NYC is sky-high. I imagine that if you live in the city, her extra income is merely going towards housing...
Trolling, trolling, trolling.

Yes people in NYC are able to save money. Just because you couldn't doesn't mean you should projection your situation on to everyone else.
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Old 11-12-2015, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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White people are still broke, though working their whole lives for the white man. They just have this fake sense of happiness and wealth. Blacks built the city so will always live in the city. No matter how expensive it gets, black people always find ways to survive. NYC still remains the most populated city and metro area for blacks in the usa.
I read a recent article about growing white poverty and how white poverty death rates are nearly as high as blacks or more. White poverty is generally ignored by liberal media.
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Old 11-12-2015, 02:53 PM
 
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I read a recent article about growing white poverty and how white poverty death rates are nearly as high as blacks or more. White poverty is generally ignored by liberal media.
Death rate on the rise for middle-aged white Americans - CNN.com

These articles reference a study done by two researchers at Princeton University. Poor whites (whites without educations) in places like rural New England, the MidWest, and the South have high rates of drug use, low rates of employment and they live in places where not much money is spent on social services/mental health/addiction treatment.

As a result they are the ONLY demographic with RISING mortality rates.
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Old 11-12-2015, 02:55 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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I read a recent article about growing white poverty and how white poverty death rates are nearly as high as blacks or more. White poverty is generally ignored by liberal media.

That's because it points to the fact - that the actual determinant is social class. Economics.

In America, anyone who discusses social class as a driving factor is either a "useless academic" or a "socialist" or both. Witness this board. Comprehensive one-dimensional thinking with many posters.
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Old 11-12-2015, 09:41 PM
 
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They do benefit economically from the changes. The neighborhood as better grocery stores, and better amenities. NYCHA has a New York City recreation center built in 2005 that even has a pool, so people from NYCHA can pay $75 for six months membership at the gym.

Chelsea is a SAFE neighborhood due to gentrification and the public schools are better because of the money that has come into the neighborhood. I'll never understand why some people worship poverty. The kids will be a lot less marginalized than the older people who group up there.
Actually they don't benefit. Can the NYCHA residents afford to shop at boutique stores, eat at expensive farm to table restaurants, shop for organic groceries, and afford 20 dollar for an one alcoholic beverage at a lounge? No. Those NYCHA residents in Chelsea will feel out of place, loose a sense of belonging and feel a sort of alienation in their own neighborhood if this keeps up. On the flip side, the city should convert Chelsea NYCHA projects into first time home owner development. Doing this can help bring a sense of community with the new comers of the area. The best way for locals to bridge the gap with gentrification is either be educated, own property and or have a business. How many low income people have degrees, own homes and have business? Nhil.
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Old 11-12-2015, 10:08 PM
 
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That's because it points to the fact - that the actual determinant is social class. Economics.

In America, anyone who discusses social class as a driving factor is either a "useless academic" or a "socialist" or both. Witness this board. Comprehensive one-dimensional thinking with many posters.
Oh certainly. Or a "social justice warrior." All one needs to do is to look at these posts.

You are on fleek here.
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Old 11-12-2015, 10:11 PM
 
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Actually they don't benefit. Can the NYCHA residents afford to shop at boutique stores, eat at expensive farm to table restaurants, shop for organic groceries, and afford 20 dollar for an one alcoholic beverage at a lounge? No. Those NYCHA residents in Chelsea will feel out of place, loose a sense of belonging and feel a sort of alienation in their own neighborhood if this keeps up. On the flip side, the city should convert Chelsea NYCHA projects into first time home owner development. Doing this can help bring a sense of community with the new comers of the area. The best way for locals to bridge the gap with gentrification is either be educated, own property and or have a business. How many low income people have degrees, own homes and have business? Nhil.
Gristedes and other local grocery stores are OFTEN more EXPENSIVE than Fairway, Trader Joes, or Whole Foods. Yet those locals bought from those expensive Manhattan grocery stores because they literally had NOWHERE ELSE to GO. I lived on the border of Chelsea and Hells Kitchen in the early 2000s.

I also have volunteered at soup kitchens in the area. Some of the poor people eating lunch at the soup kitchens told me that they shopped at Trader Joes or farm markets. The thing is if you are poor and you only get $200 of food stamps, that alone is NOT enough for you to feed yourself. You need income on top of that or you have to go to the soup kitchen and this has nothing to do with gentrification or the changes in Chelsea.

There were no cheap shopping options in the area in the 1990s.

Lastly, Chelsea isn't the NYCHA residents neighborhood. They own no property, aren't paying property taxes, and are not the majority. They are just tolerated and really should be happy that as poor people they are ALLOWED to live in such an EXPENSIVE location. I actually do understand why whites in general have been so hostile towards welfare minorities.

Most working people know if they want to live in CHELSEA it's going to cost them a fantastic amount of money. So if they can't afford it they won't live there. So by what rights do these so called minorities have to complain about the price of ANYTHING in CHELSEA? Who gives a crap what they like or don't like?

The wealthy affluent population that lives there like farm to table, likes organic, and likes expensive drinks. Businesses cater to who can afford to pay and the majority of people in an area.

If they do convert NYCHA to co-ops, wonderful. But we all know at least some people would sell out. Prices would go up and you'd have gentrification of the projects themselves over time. Which is not something I would oppose actually.
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Old 11-12-2015, 10:31 PM
 
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The entitlement of the underclass in NYC SHOCKS me!

Basically a poster has just said Chelsea should not have nice restaurant and modern grocery stores because good for nothing welfare bums in the projects (who pay not taxes and contribute nothing) allegedly might not like it.

Meanwhile a number of people here with good middle class jobs don't even try to live in Chelsea because it's expensive. If people like DSNY, NYPD, and NYFD cannot afford to live in Chelsea then welfare moochers don't deserve the neighborhood.

But these people are so selfish they think that taxpayers around the nation should pay for them to stay in one of the most expensive neighborhoods in the city.

At this point I am glad NYCHA is going over properties to sell (maximum profits) and we know they will sell the Chelsea projects. Give the NYCHA residents Section 8 vouchers and put them in the Poconos. Which is what we know the federal government and NYCHA will end up doing.
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