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Old 11-04-2015, 04:05 PM
 
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DeBlasio is not a leader, not an executive. I had more leadership experience as a 22 year old Army sergeant than he will even after his term is up.

He is a demagogue, same as Obama and Hillary. The Democrats love demagogues. All fluff no stuff. Not a single accomplishment between the three of them, yet they are worshipped and declared immune to criticism or else the criticizer must be -insert insult here-...

All that said, we deserve it. If the electorate believes that >30% participation in such an important election is acceptable then we deserve what we get. How many of you actually voted yesterday? I vote every year, no matter what positions we're choosing. We should demand accountability from our politicians, not worship them as gods to be begged of and respected without having earned it. "We the People" have ceded our Republic to whoever runs the fanciest campaign (ie, most expensive).

It's disgusting.
Well said Airborne.

For the not so bright De Blasio groupies who do not know the definition of Demagogue...

Demagogue: a political leader who seeks support by appealing to popular desires and prejudices rather than by using rational argument.

^^This sums up De Blasio in a nutshell^^
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Old 11-04-2015, 04:16 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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have anyone here ever met him in person? He is sort of a doofus in person.....just my experience
I did a few times when he first got into the city council. I worked in his district.
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Old 11-04-2015, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Between the Bays
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Pretty scary that the Democratic party can't field a candidate that has ever accomplished anything other than run a campaign. Making up useless theories at a university is not an accomplishment.
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Old 11-05-2015, 02:56 AM
 
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Mayor, City Council to ban housing in city's 21 Industrial Business Zones | POLITICO

DeBlasio is basically saying that if you have money and want to live here, you need to buy and displace the working poor because development is no longer an option on underutilized land.
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Old 11-05-2015, 10:41 AM
 
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The flip side being, do we want to reserve some land for business that create jobs and economic activity. In point of fact, I worry that NYC is becoming too residential.

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Mayor, City Council to ban housing in city's 21 Industrial Business Zones | POLITICO

DeBlasio is basically saying that if you have money and want to live here, you need to buy and displace the working poor because development is no longer an option on underutilized land.
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Old 11-05-2015, 11:31 AM
 
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Mayor, City Council to ban housing in city's 21 Industrial Business Zones | POLITICO

DeBlasio is basically saying that if you have money and want to live here, you need to buy and displace the working poor because development is no longer an option on underutilized land.
What makes you think that the land the IBZs are on are underutilized?
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Old 11-05-2015, 01:06 PM
 
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What makes you think that the land the IBZs are on are underutilized?
Because industrial jobs, manufacturing firms, and government funding have all continued to drop since Bloomberg created IBZs. It was a last attempt to keep a sinking ship from going under. Many of these businesses do not need good locations, yet many of them are located in areas that would be considered these days as desirable. Many of these businesses have been moving to NJ, or away from the northeast altogether. Need to change with the times, but deBlasio is too conservative to do so. So he is now protecting their zoning, but before that he was cutting their funding. Its seems like it is all out of jealousy and hate towards developers. If he actually cared about business and jobs, he'd build up the infrastructure for the IBZs so that they can compete nationally. But he doesn't care, because if he actually created jobs, than their would be less welfare, which would lead to less people voting for this buffoon of a politician. Interesting how he still plans to rezone the ENY IBZ, nevertheless.
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Old 11-05-2015, 02:18 PM
 
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The flip side being, do we want to reserve some land for business that create jobs and economic activity. In point of fact, I worry that NYC is becoming too residential.
The metro area has long just had a few major job centers, and beyond that the city has largely been residential.
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Old 11-05-2015, 02:19 PM
 
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Well said Airborne.

For the not so bright De Blasio groupies who do not know the definition of Demagogue...

Demagogue: a political leader who seeks support by appealing to popular desires and prejudices rather than by using rational argument.

^^This sums up De Blasio in a nutshell^^
You can add Trump and many conservatives to that list as well.
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Old 11-05-2015, 02:25 PM
 
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Because industrial jobs, manufacturing firms, and government funding have all continued to drop since Bloomberg created IBZs. It was a last attempt to keep a sinking ship from going under. Many of these businesses do not need good locations, yet many of them are located in areas that would be considered these days as desirable. Many of these businesses have been moving to NJ, or away from the northeast altogether. Need to change with the times, but deBlasio is too conservative to do so. So he is now protecting their zoning, but before that he was cutting their funding. Its seems like it is all out of jealousy and hate towards developers. If he actually cared about business and jobs, he'd build up the infrastructure for the IBZs so that they can compete nationally. But he doesn't care, because if he actually created jobs, than their would be less welfare, which would lead to less people voting for this buffoon of a politician. Interesting how he still plans to rezone the ENY IBZ, nevertheless.
The industrial sector been dead for quite some time. It's why Bloomberg rezoned the West Side of Manhattan, Western Brooklyn, and Western Queens for redevelopment.

Freezing development does nothing to help industrial jobs or help them come back, because many of the areas in prime locations have already been developed! LIC is already full of office buildings, high rises, and condos, and enough permits have been issued to completely redevelop it. This ban in development certainly saves Sunnyside's industrial sector, but no one had been buying out those factories.

I think this is empty posturing on de Blasio's part. The city was remade in Bloomberg's image and de Blasio has no real vision to move things forwards. He therefore makes empty gestures like this.

As for displacement of the poor that will happen regardless in prime locations.
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