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Old 12-31-2015, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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I never thought NY was scary in the 90s, at least not most of Queens and Manhattan.
For us in the Jamaican community living in Brooklyn was scary because the Jamaican posses were one of the elements driving gun and drug crime then. Things I remember: they used to control buildings, fire shots (gun salutes) at block parties and clubs plus shootings in broad daylight. Things got better when the Jamaican and American governments put teeth into their extradition treaty; the Feds started to aggressively imprison and deport the criminals; Guiliani started closing down notorious clubs (Biltmore, Starlite etc.).

These actions are partially responsible for the drastic increase in violence in Jamaica to this day. We have a lot of deportees from the UK, Canada and mainly the US flooding back and these guys do what they know best there.

Anyways, sorry for the long digression.
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Old 12-31-2015, 08:10 PM
 
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Things got better when the Jamaican and American governments put teeth into their extradition treaty; the Feds started to aggressively imprison and deport the criminals; Guiliani started closing down notorious clubs (Biltmore, Starlite etc.).
Exactly! Which is why Guilliani was the best Mayor NYC has ever had. But of coarse the Guilliani haters (De Blasio groupies) on this board like to take shine away from Guilliani and claim dumbassss Dinikins made NYC safer. Please, Guilliani is the man who started it all and should get full credit for changing NYC for the better and being tough on crime.
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Old 12-31-2015, 08:48 PM
 
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Exactly! Which is why Guilliani was the best Mayor NYC has ever had. But of coarse the Guilliani haters (De Blasio groupies) on this board like to take shine away from Guilliani and claim dumbassss Dinikins made NYC safer. Please, Guilliani is the man who started it all and should get full credit for changing NYC for the better and being tough on crime.
Yes Giuliani started it but I feel that you should give credit to the national government for giving big cities money to hire more cops. Bloomberg also shut down a number of notorious clubs and used gentrification and economic development to push the scum out, a trend that continues even under de Blasio.

The influences of the Giuliani/Bloomberg years will outlast de Blasio's mayoralty for better or for worse. Overall for the city as a whole the better.
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Old 12-31-2015, 08:50 PM
 
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For us in the Jamaican community living in Brooklyn was scary because the Jamaican posses were one of the elements driving gun and drug crime then. Things I remember: they used to control buildings, fire shots (gun salutes) at block parties and clubs plus shootings in broad daylight. Things got better when the Jamaican and American governments put teeth into their extradition treaty; the Feds started to aggressively imprison and deport the criminals; Guiliani started closing down notorious clubs (Biltmore, Starlite etc.).

These actions are partially responsible for the drastic increase in violence in Jamaica to this day. We have a lot of deportees from the UK, Canada and mainly the US flooding back and these guys do what they know best there.

Anyways, sorry for the long digression.
Thank you for admitting this. There are some people on this forum that want to claim that only hard working, decent people are forced out of NYC. Well via deportation and other tools that is clearly not the case.
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