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Old 12-23-2015, 10:12 AM
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There is still plenty of white inner city trash that I wouldn't define as ghetto because they weren't systematically rounded up and forced into certain conditions by a large centralized government.
lol! what?! the projects as we know them today were majority white back in the day. they were full of german, irish, and polish immigrants.
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Old 12-23-2015, 10:21 AM
 
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lol! what?! the projects as we know them today were majority white back in the day. they were full of german, irish, and polish immigrants.

You left out Italian.....




Until exposed by a NAACP lawsuit yes, NYCHA routinely doled out public housing often based on race/demographic area. It explained whey some projects were mostly white (Todt Hill, South Beach to name a few), while others were mostly minority.


That being said places today that are dangerous H**L Holes once were large if not mostly white and stable low, working and middle class housing.


West Brighton houses back in the day was one such place. As was (believe it or not) Jersey Street PJs
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Old 12-23-2015, 10:22 AM
 
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Were blacks "systematically rounded up and forced" by a centralized government?

Southern blacks freely migrated to northern cities.
Maybe it was all part of the master plan.
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Old 12-23-2015, 10:25 AM
 
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lol! what?! the projects as we know them today were majority white back in the day. they were full of german, irish, and polish immigrants.
And probably most recently before blacks, jews.
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Old 12-23-2015, 10:27 AM
 
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Yes, maybe she is one of those famous UES trans (Lexington West to Fifth, not Yorkville) who was slumming way out in Brooklyn and was taking the subway back into the City. *LOL* Her husband is probably a hedge fund manager and as it was the servants day off she got bored.....
How about not assuming anything about people you don't know?
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Old 12-23-2015, 10:30 AM
 
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Maybe it was all part of the master plan.

Actually the "Great Migration" of southern blacks to the north or west helped bring about the collapse of large swaths of the latter's economy. Quite simply the south has always been built upon cheap (or free as in slaves) labor for everything from farming to domestic service. When blacks fled that pool grew smaller.


Yes, you had poor whites but they to either began leaving or found better ways of earning a living.
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Old 12-23-2015, 10:41 AM
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You left out Italian.....




Until exposed by a NAACP lawsuit yes, NYCHA routinely doled out public housing often based on race/demographic area. It explained whey some projects were mostly white (Todt Hill, South Beach to name a few), while others were mostly minority.


That being said places today that are dangerous H**L Holes once were large if not mostly white and stable low, working and middle class housing.


West Brighton houses back in the day was one such place. As was (believe it or not) Jersey Street PJs
apologies to my italian peeps for leaving u guys out! jersey street projects were definitely white back in the day as my grandfather lived there. as were stapleton and park hill (believe it or not). im sure this phenomena wasn't just staten island based and the same could be said about the projects in the other boroughs, as u've already mentioned.
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Old 12-23-2015, 10:54 AM
 
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apologies to my italian peeps for leaving u guys out! jersey street projects were definitely white back in the day as my grandfather lived there. as were stapleton and park hill (believe it or not). im sure this phenomena wasn't just staten island based and the same could be said about the projects in the other boroughs, as u've already mentioned.
Don't think many realize that Jersey Street from Richmond Terrace going south was not always the hood it became. Once upon a time it was a solid working to middle class area (with some low in the mix) of mostly Italian, Irish, German, etc.. Americans with some minorities thrown in. There once was good A&P down there. The Italians in that area supported Assumption Church and School as well.
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Old 12-23-2015, 10:59 AM
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Don't think many realize that Jersey Street from Richmond Terrace going south was not always the hood it became. Once upon a time it was a solid working to middle class area (with some low in the mix) of mostly Italian, Irish, German, etc.. Americans with some minorities thrown in. There once was good A&P down there. The Italians in that area supported Assumption Church and School as well.
my grandfather (who died early) told my father of the sudden shift from white to black and my father passed on the story like this: he said that the second a black family moved in, 2 white families moved out and another 2 black families took those open spots and the cycle continued and what we see today has been the norm since at least the eighties, if not longer. then crack happened and the rest is history.
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Old 12-23-2015, 11:11 AM
 
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my grandfather (who died early) told my father of the sudden shift from white to black and my father passed on the story like this: he said that the second a black family moved in, 2 white families moved out and another 2 black families took those open spots and the cycle continued and what we see today has been the norm since at least the eighties, if not longer. then crack happened and the rest is history.

That pretty much his how it played out in many North Shore communities from Saint George right along to Mariner's Harbor...


Ditto for looping around Saint George onto Bay Street heading out to Rosebank.... Back in the day that area was solid white (mostly Italian but some Irish, etc...) but that has all changed.


Though the process did start slowly in the 1970's, yes by the 1980's it was full steam ahead! *LOL*


Know a guy who grew up in West Brighton on Elm Street but the family moved in the 1980's. He drove through his old block a year ago and couldn't believe what a hood it had become. Real estate persons try to sell Bement Avenue below Henderson as "Randall Manor" which or course it isn't.
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