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Old 01-03-2016, 09:41 AM
 
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Americas entitlement and laziness is contagious. Let's give out participation awards and tell every kid they are special.
That is a different issue and could be discussed in a different thread. But anyone who adores cutting throat competitive life style from infancy might consider moving Japan for an experience.
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Old 01-03-2016, 09:48 AM
 
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That is a different issue and could be discussed in a different thread. But anyone who adores cutting throat competitive life style from infancy might consider moving Japan for an experience.
Newsflash.

The world is cutthroat and kids are now competing globally.
If th ou don't want to, fine.

But don't complain when others do.
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Old 01-03-2016, 10:26 AM
 
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I bet the people in this thread defending the "Asian tiger" thing would probably not have done well in such an environment, but they've been out of school for so long that they don't care.

Also you have to understand that the level of academic rigor found in much of East Asia is far more intense than anything Americans have experienced in public school, so it's not fair to tell American kids to just "suck it up". I'm pretty sure kids in China go to school 6 days a week and the ones who can afford it go to cram schools and get tutors. And of course I have nothing against Asian kids doing well, more power to them, but the nature of public schools shouldn't make kids feel like garbage if they don't do insanely well.
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Old 01-03-2016, 10:33 AM
 
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Isn't it interesting how Asians manage to outperform most other groups in public education without the benefit of being taught by Asian teachers?

Is there a secret-to-our-success formula here that the perennially underperforming black and hispanic students can learn from? Or is playing racial politics still their number one preference over receiving a good education from the best teachers, no matter their race?
Speaking on Latino-Americans, I think collectively they have a good work ethic, but they don't place enough emphasis on school. This is a generalization of course and I don't mean to offend anyone, and I think that Latino students are starting to do better collectively. And this doesn't mean Asian kids are "better" or whatever. It's that while Asian-Americans place a lot of emphasis on school, keep in mind that East Asian emphasis on academics dates back probably thousands of years, and while they've had big issues with things like poverty, at least their identity remained intact more or less and the emphasis on school remained.
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Old 01-03-2016, 11:41 AM
 
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I bet the people in this thread defending the "Asian tiger" thing would probably not have done well in such an environment, but they've been out of school for so long that they don't care.
ll.
Or we are grateful for the values of our parents and know from personal experience that the "downsides" are highly exaggerated by the media (as most things are to create dramatic effect).
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Old 01-03-2016, 11:47 AM
 
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About this qualified for admittance to NYU. What exactly do you need to qualify again? Is it just grades?


If it is just grades, then no, there are plenty of other races out in the burbs who qualify too.
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Old 01-03-2016, 11:52 AM
 
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I bet the people in this thread defending the "Asian tiger" thing would probably not have done well in such an environment, but they've been out of school for so long that they don't care.

Also you have to understand that the level of academic rigor found in much of East Asia is far more intense than anything Americans have experienced in public school, so it's not fair to tell American kids to just "suck it up". I'm pretty sure kids in China go to school 6 days a week and the ones who can afford it go to cram schools and get tutors. And of course I have nothing against Asian kids doing well, more power to them, but the nature of public schools shouldn't make kids feel like garbage if they don't do insanely well.
I believe in high school is not mandatory in China,


Plus if it is taught like anything in USA, then it is largely just a waste of time anyways.
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Old 01-03-2016, 11:53 AM
 
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Newsflash.

The world is cutthroat and kids are now competing globally.
If th ou don't want to, fine.

But don't complain when others do.
If that is the case, why not just go all out total war?


What is the point in competing in a spelling bee especially when you are competing globally to receive the lowest wage?
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Old 01-03-2016, 11:57 AM
 
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What is the point in competing in a spelling bee?
Then point is the majority of parents who pay the taxes and vote in these districts want it. Fair enough. It's no different from the parents in the other distrit who want to pay for elite sports so their kids can have a shot at athletic scholarships
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