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Old 01-15-2016, 10:10 PM
 
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Certain people like to talk about people on welfare because they like to put a minority face on it. You usually won't hear them talking about certain people who abuse SSI and the disability fraud that is rampant. You will see stories from time to time about disability fraud and it won't be a minority and it won't get much play. There are moochers from every background but That's the way our society is.

Welfare is a good tool if used properly and temporarily for those truly in need.To help them get back on their feet and prevent homelessness, which can cost us more in the long term. Unfortunately those who scam the system get all the attention.
back to the original thread topic...welfare MADNESS.

Welfare recipients are are seen as lazy, unwilling to better themselves, and greedy. And yes we know exactly which faces are placed on the lazy welfare queens, dukes, and dutchesses that people love to discuss.

It's simply easier to HATE someone when you don't view them as equal to you.

They honestly think people just love being on welfare. Lack of empathy also plays a part.
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Old 01-15-2016, 10:15 PM
 
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Most people know this, and manage to do just fine.





True, but not as many as before



People move themselves across continents if that's what will bring them and their families a better life. Only in NYC is remaining in your same neighborhood seen as a birthright.
Most people do not move across continents. There are those that do and that's fine. But it's ridiculous to say MOST should leave NYC because quite frankly MOST of NYC is working class. The areas that have had lots of growth are tourism and related hospitality and retail sectors.

High paying jobs in finance have declined and tech sector job growth doesn't make up for what was lost in finance (nor does growth in film or tv).

NYC deliberately kept entire neighborhoods underutilized. The housing shortage demand lead to the housing shortage.
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Old 01-16-2016, 03:59 AM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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Only in NYC is remaining in your same neighborhood seen as a birthright.
A birthright supported by government programs no less. A birthright which overrides the property rights of individuals in mamy cases.
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Old 01-16-2016, 08:04 AM
 
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How can there be an increase in legitimate job creation when everything the government does (federal level and, in the case of NYC, state/local/municipal level) makes it very difficult for jobs to be created? Higher taxes, more regulations, powerful public sector unions, environmental regulations...

Even in NYC, the 5 largest employers (by far) are government. If we were trying to run our economy into the ground, we couldn't be doing a better job than what we're doing now.

NYC is a very difficult place to do business. America, as a whole, is less attractive for business than it once was which is why there are so many corporate inversions. In a sane world, our government would make our country more conducive to business and job creation instead of demonizing or punishing businesses that leave.
At least some regulations are important. I don't want to eat bad food from a restaurant or grocery store. A food establishment stores food under bad conditions needs to be closed. A bar that tampers with their alcohol needs to be closed. Buildings need to be built up to code or else they could collapse.

With that said established companies in NYC (like the Yellow Cabs and there one million dollar medallions) have lobbied the city government to use regulations to keep competitors out of the market. This drove up prices and certainly restricted employment options in that sector. However Uber and Lyft have shattered that stronghold and are so popular (and have good lawyers) that NYC regulators can't ban them. Airbnb has forced down the pricing of hotels and more tourists come to NYC than ever.
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Old 01-16-2016, 10:49 AM
 
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At least some regulations are important. I don't want to eat bad food from a restaurant or grocery store. A food establishment stores food under bad conditions needs to be closed. A bar that tampers with their alcohol needs to be closed. Buildings need to be built up to code or else they could collapse.

With that said established companies in NYC (like the Yellow Cabs and there one million dollar medallions) have lobbied the city government to use regulations to keep competitors out of the market. This drove up prices and certainly restricted employment options in that sector. However Uber and Lyft have shattered that stronghold and are so popular (and have good lawyers) that NYC regulators can't ban them. Airbnb has forced down the pricing of hotels and more tourists come to NYC than ever.
Government regulations aren't needed to prevent restaurants from selling stale/tampered/dangerous food or bars from selling tampered alcohol. That's what the markets for. Try opening a restaurant in that sells bad food or a bar serving tampered alcohol for an average of > $20/drink and see how long it takes until the business goes belly up. Liberals like Obama (who have never so much as run a lemonade stand) like to paint business owners as evil, but the truth is a good business owner would want to provide their customers with the best possible goods or services at the most competitive price. That said, I'm not advocating elimination of all regulations but would make the case that our regulatory burden (especially in NYS/NYC) is not conducive to business formation or job creation.

You're correct that well connected industries use politicians to keep new entrants out of the market. Another example would be unions in the construction industry. Our office (financial district) is being touched up after we moved in and we have no choice but to use unionized workers, which (not surprisingly) drives up the cost.

If the problem is insufficient job creation, the solution involves smaller government including a lower tax/regulatory burden.
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Old 01-16-2016, 12:51 PM
 
Location: New York State
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I use to work a job in Human Resource for a retail company. I did preliminary interviews for hiring people. I cannot tell you how many people out there wanted a job, but asked to work no more than 20 hours a week so they could keep their "benefits" (aka government checks).

It was like, so I'm offering you a job so you can become independent, and you are shunning me because you want to keep your entitlement checks coming in. Why does it tick those off who work off so much? Well, because most of us work for a living and EARN a salary, and some get money for doing nothing. Gee, I don't know...why would anyone have a problem with that? You libs contradict yourselves. You always cry that you want equality for all and plicitial correctness, but it's ok to give other peoples money to ABLE BODIED people who don't care to work? Yeah, that's fairness and equality. And I don't care what color your skin is, go earn your money!! Give everyone on assistance 3 years to get a job and cut them off. Unless you have a legit disability or something of that nature, no exceptions should be made.
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Old 06-19-2016, 08:03 AM
 
Location: NYC
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All of them is jealous of them rich hood rats. How are they poor if they got iPhones and $300 sneakers? Welfare queens are richer than middle class.


Such "things" are not bought with welfare money.....
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Old 06-19-2016, 08:07 AM
 
Location: NYC
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The mob/mafia.

The number running game.

Drug dealers....and your typical street hustler.

Underground economies have existed for years.

For the misinformed and deluded in New York of all places I'm fairly convinced things just don't, as they say "ring a bell." Why would you ask this question?

Which begs the question. Do posters here have a brain.
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Old 06-19-2016, 08:14 AM
 
Location: NYC
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That still doesn't address the fact that generational welfare or staying on gov assistance for years is a myth.


SSI pays max 733 per month, and one can only be 60 months on cash assistance, either/or, not both, and has to work 20 hrs per week and is constantly pressed to get a full-time a job.
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Old 06-19-2016, 08:19 AM
 
Location: NYC
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New locations or popular destinations won't solve the fact that poor people will continue to exist regardless.

The answer lies in the fact that one must understand the relationship of the wealthy to the middle class, the working poor, and the welfare leeches that some people hate and love to blame their problems on.

The government creates and manages poor people. Large numbers of poor people exist and are controlled by the hands of small few.

Wealthy people do not pass wealth to anyone else except their family and maybe close friends.

Poor people have nothing to pass on to their family and friends.
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