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Old 02-17-2016, 09:33 AM
 
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his bullet could just as easily struck a innocent little girl or a elderly person that was using the steps


Is a man's life worth any less?


Lately I have taken to running the building's steps (enclosed stairwell) nightly for exercise. Perhaps this is not the world's best idea.
if I had that much energy at disposal, I would volunteer to be a tour guide in central park...
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Old 02-17-2016, 09:59 AM
 
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Let's hope that Liang's conviction will mark the beginning of the era of fair trial of police brutality if that indeed exists. that will make him a memorable "scapegoat".

also, beware of angry Asians this Saturday as they gather to voice their worries of being victimized by the majority. avoid confronting them if possible for your personal safety.
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Old 02-17-2016, 11:14 AM
 
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The point is that White Police brutality which is much more common and deliberate in many cases did not end with guilty verdicts while this trial delivered one even though it was not deliberate.

The case of Eric Garnier choking death, the police deliberately delivered unnecessary force to the man using choke holds while the guy complain of breathing problems and was trying to break free of it dies.

All caught on film while the case of the Chicago police shootings of unarmed teen took 1 year for the mayor and the police commission resigned before they release the video.

So I think the Liang case had a lot of inconsistency where the PBA and the city gave him up to all the police brutality complaints.

At some Liang should be charged with involuntary manslaughter and his partner should be given immunity which showed favoritism or preferential treatment than charging him with also trying to cover up and not seeking help for the victim.

So while people cheered for the verdict, you still have police officers that are trained to cover up for each other up in the ranks.
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Old 02-17-2016, 05:23 PM
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The point is that White Police brutality which is much more common and deliberate in many cases did not end with guilty verdicts while this trial delivered one even though it was not deliberate.

The case of Eric Garnier choking death, the police deliberately delivered unnecessary force to the man using choke holds while the guy complain of breathing problems and was trying to break free of it dies.

All caught on film while the case of the Chicago police shootings of unarmed teen took 1 year for the mayor and the police commission resigned before they release the video.

So I think the Liang case had a lot of inconsistency where the PBA and the city gave him up to all the police brutality complaints.

At some Liang should be charged with involuntary manslaughter and his partner should be given immunity which showed favoritism or preferential treatment than charging him with also trying to cover up and not seeking help for the victim.

So while people cheered for the verdict, you still have police officers that are trained to cover up for each other up in the ranks.
I agree and don't forget Amadu Diallo!
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Old 02-18-2016, 06:14 PM
 
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Voices of fear from the Asian community:

"...Today we stand here because the justice system has failed us. We the Asian American Community rally to show the deepest condolences to Akai Gurley and his family. We are equally saddened by the selective and unjust prosecution of Peter Liang, who is made the scapegoat of the police brutality that has long troubled our society. Both Akai Gurley and Peter Liang and their families are the victims of the structural racism that is still pervasive in our country. Rather than the triumph of justice, the selective prosecution of Peter Liang confirms our deepest fear that people of color are still not equal. The selective prosecution of Peter Liang will make the world more dangerous since the privileged can always walk away free while the minorities will bear excessive punishment. It will increase race-based inequality and intensify police-community relations. We are thus now calling for all people and groups who love justice and freedom to stand behind Akai Gurley and Peter Liang and get united to say NO to structural racism, selective prosecution, and injustice. We are fighting for a more equal, just, and better future. We are calling for NYPD and those who are truly responsible to shoulder the responsibilities..."
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Old 02-18-2016, 09:03 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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Everyone is getting in on the act now. The Reckoning is coming soon. The racialists won't know what hit them.
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Old 02-19-2016, 01:04 AM
 
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it isn't the accident . i can understand the accidental discharge being startled . instinctively your finger gets ready to shoot and a bit of a twitch can cause it to fire .

but it is the attempted cover up that makes it criminal . . people are at fault all the time in accidental deaths but that does not mean it was criminal .

but covering it up or trying to , throws it all in a different light , asian has nothing to do with it . .
Not sure if these have already been mentioned in this thread, but some key details are omitted by nearly all media reports on this case. The alleged coverup by Liang and his partner took place before they realized someone had been hit. The accidental discharge happened as Liang was entering the stairs from the 8th floor. After his gun went off, Liang retreated back to the hallway behind the door to the stairwell and had a discussion with his partner. They did not realize at this time that the bullet had ricocheted down the completely dark stairwell and hit someone on a floor below. It was only after they re-entered the stairwell and descended the stairs to investigate sounds coming from below did they finally discover the fatally injured Gurley on the 5th floor landing, upon which Liang radioed in for help.

Not immediately radioing in the accidental discharge is clearly wrong, but does that make it manslaughter even though Liang and his partner had no idea that someone was dying in the stairwell three floors below them? Even if they had radioed in immediately, it would not have saved Gurley's life as they would not have called for medical help as they did not think anyone was hit initially.
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Old 02-19-2016, 04:51 PM
 
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Not sure if these have already been mentioned in this thread, but some key details are omitted by nearly all media reports on this case. The alleged coverup by Liang and his partner took place before they realized someone had been hit. The accidental discharge happened as Liang was entering the stairs from the 8th floor. After his gun went off, Liang retreated back to the hallway behind the door to the stairwell and had a discussion with his partner. They did not realize at this time that the bullet had ricocheted down the completely dark stairwell and hit someone on a floor below. It was only after they re-entered the stairwell and descended the stairs to investigate sounds coming from below did they finally discover the fatally injured Gurley on the 5th floor landing, upon which Liang radioed in for help.

Not immediately radioing in the accidental discharge is clearly wrong, but does that make it manslaughter even though Liang and his partner had no idea that someone was dying in the stairwell three floors below them? Even if they had radioed in immediately, it would not have saved Gurley's life as they would not have called for medical help as they did not think anyone was hit initially.
You must be Liang's lawyer or something. You don't just accidentally shoot your gun walking in a residential building, you shouldn't have your gun out in the first place. People ****ing live there! Human beings its not a god damn hunting expedition in the woods. The pig made a mistake now a innocent father with a toddler is dead and this little girl won't grow up with a father. I'm hoping and praying for the maximum sentence in maximum security prison
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Old 02-19-2016, 07:57 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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Very few humans live in those buildings. No real humans should be there. Any thing living there should be required to exit the building to receive city services (which they require to survive, of course).
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Old 02-19-2016, 08:11 PM
 
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Let's hope that Liang's conviction will mark the beginning of the era of fair trial of police brutality if that indeed exists. that will make him a memorable "scapegoat".

also, beware of angry Asians this Saturday as they gather to voice their worries of being victimized by the majority. avoid confronting them if possible for your personal safety.
It won't change anything.
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