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Old 03-08-2016, 02:05 PM
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I think they should put more than one sport in there. Like a velodrome for cycling, and volleyball courts. These are olympic sports also and played in senior olympics. There is no place in the Bronx for serious training of these sports. Sitting volleyball can also be played by the disabled.
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Old 03-08-2016, 02:15 PM
 
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There are some beautiful streets in Kingsbridge Heights with great views to the west, trees, and that sense of being up high in altitude that gentry folk love for some reason. Also proximity to the amenities of Broadway such as Gourmet Garden. To me that area on the hill is a hidden gem.
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Old 03-08-2016, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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How about people value education and get a proper one or demand for better education so they can actually gets jobs that can keep up with the prices?

How about we just say that this might be the best post on this thread and serves an answer to complaints about "gentrification". That would make too much sense. Instead, the local, "native" population of an Alpha++Global City and center of the Western World simply relies on Wal-Mart esque entry level minimum wage jobs to pay the rent in a city which has been known for steep real estate since it's founding.

The other antics are to mobilize and create zoning committees made up seemingly of the richest, and the poorest residents, and aggressively protest the new development of anything with large density, which is exactly what the city needs to offset it's housing crisis and absurd prices. They claim they are crusading in preserving the neighborhoods "character" and architecture, but most of us intelligible enough to come here and conversate, know better than to believe the ploy that these two groups truly care that the 19th century brownstones have doors carved of solid Chestnut, and pummel stone facades that face the structure. No. They don't notice such things IMHO. They do this because they are either very wealthy and are easily able to pay the exorbitant prices for said neighborhood, so they attempt to control zoning in an effort to enjoy a "bucolic" lifestyle in an extreme urban setting. Or, they are rather poor, and probably have rent stabilized apartments, and, are making an attempt to prolong the time in which they will enjoy getting a good deal on said apartment.
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Old 03-08-2016, 09:18 PM
 
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How about we just say that this might be the best post on this thread and serves an answer to complaints about "gentrification". That would make too much sense. Instead, the local, "native" population of an Alpha++Global City and center of the Western World simply relies on Wal-Mart esque entry level minimum wage jobs to pay the rent in a city which has been known for steep real estate since it's founding.

The other antics are to mobilize and create zoning committees made up seemingly of the richest, and the poorest residents, and aggressively protest the new development of anything with large density, which is exactly what the city needs to offset it's housing crisis and absurd prices. They claim they are crusading in preserving the neighborhoods "character" and architecture, but most of us intelligible enough to come here and conversate, know better than to believe the ploy that these two groups truly care that the 19th century brownstones have doors carved of solid Chestnut, and pummel stone facades that face the structure. No. They don't notice such things IMHO. They do this because they are either very wealthy and are easily able to pay the exorbitant prices for said neighborhood, so they attempt to control zoning in an effort to enjoy a "bucolic" lifestyle in an extreme urban setting. Or, they are rather poor, and probably have rent stabilized apartments, and, are making an attempt to prolong the time in which they will enjoy getting a good deal on said apartment.
I think that's a big part of it

I'm torn on gentrification personally, I think that people have the right to live where they want if they can afford it, and that landlords can charge what they want to an extent. And I also think that gentrification brings in good businesses. But I also wouldn't want the city to be unaffordable for everyone but the wealthy, and I also wouldn't want the city to lose all of its grime.
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Old 03-12-2016, 09:02 AM
 
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The editorial in the Riverdale Press is absolutely correct. The KNIC Partnership has been attempting for 3 1/2 years to find supporters for this project and has raised less than one-half of the $350,000 needed. And, that is assuming the cost estimates are correct. The Empire State Development Corporation should take a hard look at the experience of the Twin Rinks in Nassau County where the actual costs exceeded estimates by 200%. The investors also went the loan route were bankrupt within two years.

Building a 9 rink facility in a community where 30% of the residents are living below the poverty level makes no sense at all. Hockey and figure skating are very expensive sports. And,
there is no way that athletes who have to train several times a week and live in Nassau, Suffolk, Brooklyn, Queens are going to commute to this facility. The Cross Bronx expressway which many people will use is a traffic nightmare; bridge tolls are a major added expense.

http://www.newsday.com/long island/nassau/sources-islanders-owner-wins-bid-to-take-over-bankrupt-ice-rink-1.10793006

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Old 03-12-2016, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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The editorial in the Riverdale Press is absolutely correct. The KNIC Partnership has been attempting for 3 1/2 years to find supporters for this project and has raised less than one-half of the $350,000 needed. And, that is assuming the cost estimates are correct. The Empire State Development Corporation should take a hard look at the experience of the Twin Rinks in Nassau County where the actual costs exceeded estimates by 200%. The investors also went the loan route were bankrupt within two years.

Building a 9 rink facility in a community where 30% of the residents are living below the poverty level makes no sense at all. Hockey and figure skating are very expensive sports. And,
there is no way that athletes who have to train several times a week and live in Nassau, Suffolk, Brooklyn, Queens are going to commute to this facility. The Cross Bronx expressway which many people will use is a traffic nightmare; bridge tolls are a major added expense.

http://www.newsday.com/long island/nassau/sources-islanders-owner-wins-bid-to-take-over-bankrupt-ice-rink-1.10793006
I so agree with you.
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Old 03-12-2016, 10:40 AM
 
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How about we just say that this might be the best post on this thread and serves an answer to complaints about "gentrification". That would make too much sense. Instead, the local, "native" population of an Alpha++Global City and center of the Western World simply relies on Wal-Mart esque entry level minimum wage jobs to pay the rent in a city which has been known for steep real estate since it's founding.

The other antics are to mobilize and create zoning committees made up seemingly of the richest, and the poorest residents, and aggressively protest the new development of anything with large density, which is exactly what the city needs to offset it's housing crisis and absurd prices. They claim they are crusading in preserving the neighborhoods "character" and architecture, but most of us intelligible enough to come here and conversate, know better than to believe the ploy that these two groups truly care that the 19th century brownstones have doors carved of solid Chestnut, and pummel stone facades that face the structure. No. They don't notice such things IMHO. They do this because they are either very wealthy and are easily able to pay the exorbitant prices for said neighborhood, so they attempt to control zoning in an effort to enjoy a "bucolic" lifestyle in an extreme urban setting. Or, they are rather poor, and probably have rent stabilized apartments, and, are making an attempt to prolong the time in which they will enjoy getting a good deal on said apartment.
You're not owed a life in NYC and this is something some transplants or wanna be transplants can't seem to figure out.

Lastly landlords are business people and will always get the maximum amount of rent they can. Part of NYC's problem is it has a high percentage of renters. What do you think happens when these people retire, especially if they have no retirement plan? NYC leads the nation in homelessness and it will only get worse.
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Old 03-12-2016, 06:55 PM
 
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Only in New York do people complain about private developers dumping hundreds of millions of dollars into turning an unused, derelict structure into an attractive amenity that will employ a bunch of people and generate a bunch of money for the community...
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Old 03-12-2016, 07:40 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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The editorial in the Riverdale Press is absolutely correct. The KNIC Partnership has been attempting for 3 1/2 years to find supporters for this project and has raised less than one-half of the $350,000 needed. And, that is assuming the cost estimates are correct. The Empire State Development Corporation should take a hard look at the experience of the Twin Rinks in Nassau County where the actual costs exceeded estimates by 200%. The investors also went the loan route were bankrupt within two years.

Building a 9 rink facility in a community where 30% of the residents are living below the poverty level makes no sense at all. Hockey and figure skating are very expensive sports. And,
there is no way that athletes who have to train several times a week and live in Nassau, Suffolk, Brooklyn, Queens are going to commute to this facility. The Cross Bronx expressway which many people will use is a traffic nightmare; bridge tolls are a major added expense.

http://www.newsday.com/long island/nassau/sources-islanders-owner-wins-bid-to-take-over-bankrupt-ice-rink-1.10793006
Do we hold that criteria that the institution in question need to have its primary usage by the people living in the immediate vicinty for major stadiums, major museums, airports, office highrises, shopping centers, colleges etc.? I think this should be sold more on whether or not this can be at least self-sustaining AND that it can have some net benefit to the local community, but not by the rubric of whether or not the primary customers are from the local area.
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Old 03-13-2016, 01:50 AM
 
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Davidson Avenue between West 192nd Street and West Kingsbridge Road:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/W+...701d6df5?hl=en

Looks like Queens.
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