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You will take home approx $2k a month on that salary. You absolutely cannot afford $1600/mo for rent, and you cannot afford to keep any sort of car. And this is for 2 people?
Not going to happen.
If you go to the burbs you won't have to pay for parking, but you'll need a train pass to NYC ($300)
On the contrary, Ace, recent statistics rank San Fran as the #1 most expensive area to live in the country.
And the commute would not be 1.5 hrs unless you mean driving, which would make no sense to drive to work in the city. By train its no more than an hour unless you are literally all the way up past Peekskill - which I'm assuming she would not be.
And honestly, I looked for apartments just 3 years ago and there is no way she'd have a hard time finding a 1 BR apartment for $1600 or less in Westchester - even in the good areas. I looked at tons of $1400-$1500 TWO-BR places. Again, the real question would be if she could really afford $1600/month.
Ace, this is the NYC forum. NYC has 5 boroughs. I suggest you go look for a different forum that is Manhattan-only, as that seems to be your exclusive obsession.
Well I'm born and raised in San Francisco. I currently live in a one-bedroom with my Father in the Richmond District. Our monthly rent is $1100 a month. We live in around the areas of 20-25th and Geary. There are a lot of new Russian and Chinese immigrants in the area. The area is very safe and you could find an apartment around for this price.
The Richmond District is probably the only affordable neighborhood out here right now.
If you look around the Inner Richmond, around Clement St., you can find some very affordable apartments. I remember looking at an apartment for $979 a month and it was a one-bedroom.
You can forget about Valencia, Nob Hill, Hayes Valley, Noey Valley, and/or anything that isn't the Richmond District!
On the contrary, Ace, recent statistics rank San Fran as the #1 most expensive area to live in the country.
And the commute would not be 1.5 hrs unless you mean driving, which would make no sense to drive to work in the city. By train its no more than an hour unless you are literally all the way up past Peekskill - which I'm assuming she would not be.
And honestly, I looked for apartments just 3 years ago and there is no way she'd have a hard time finding a 1 BR apartment for $1600 or less in Westchester - even in the good areas. I looked at tons of $1400-$1500 TWO-BR places. Again, the real question would be if she could really afford $1600/month.
The biggest chunk of cost of living is real estate/housing.
NYC is a huge land mass compared to SF, and I suppose NYC could be slighltly less expensive than SF if you factor in the VAST ghetto areas of the Bronx and other boroughs.
But whenever a young person says, "I wanna move to NYC, yay!", chances are they are referring to MANHATTAN, not some rat hole in the Bronx or other borough (or some sleepy suburb in Westchester).
Therefore, when comparing apples to apples (i.e., Manhattan below 96th street vs. nice SF neighborhoods), the cost of living is much lower in SF. Manhattan below 96th street = $2800/mo. average for a 1 bedroom apt.
For $1100/mo., the original poster would get a 1 bedroom in Harlem next to a methadone clinic, sex offender housing unit, or homeless shelter. Or she'd have to move to an outer borough or Jersey. I'd take SF over those options.
Nobody really wants to live in Manhattan unless they are rich or a celebrity. I live here. I know. And there are more than enough things to do in many of the suburbs, but more importantly, as I said, you are 45 minutes away from Grand Central and Times Square. That is absolutely nothing and you could work, play and so everything you want in the city, without having the ridiculous prices of rent, the dirtiness (honestl, Manhattan is not exactly pristine clean either), crowdedness, hassle, and frustration of being in the city. So yea, people often do think of moving to NYC as "yay living in the city, not some ghetto boro or sleepy suburb", but those are generally the people who have no idea what theyre talking about and those people very quickly change their tune when they get here. Nobody really lives in manhattan for a long time because they realize they can get every single benefit of it without all the crap by living close to, rather than in the city. And there are decent areas of the bronx and even brooklyn. Long Island is another option, or north jersey. Again, living in a nearby suburb is by far the better and totally affordable option.
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Originally Posted by Ace Rock
The biggest chunk of cost of living is real estate/housing.
NYC is a huge land mass compared to SF, and I suppose NYC could be slighltly less expensive than SF if you factor in the VAST ghetto areas of the Bronx and other boroughs.
But whenever a young person says, "I wanna move to NYC, yay!", chances are they are referring to MANHATTAN, not some rat hole in the Bronx or other borough (or some sleepy suburb in Westchester).
Therefore, when comparing apples to apples (i.e., Manhattan below 96th street vs. nice SF neighborhoods), the cost of living is much lower in SF. Manhattan below 96th street = $2800/mo. average for a 1 bedroom apt.
For $1100/mo., the original poster would get a 1 bedroom in Harlem next to a methadone clinic, sex offender housing unit, or homeless shelter. Or she'd have to move to an outer borough or Jersey. I'd take SF over those options.
Nobody really wants to live in Manhattan unless they are rich or a celebrity. I live here. I know.
I have a cousin who grew up in Brooklyn and before she hit 21 she promptly moved to the upper east side with her girl friends. Manhattan is the place to be if you have the connection to make good money in the city, go out a lot, and like to be in the center of the universe. The outter boroughs just aren't the same thing.
Usaku ~ As someone who has lived in or around all of the places you've mentioned, do yourself a big favor and stay in CA if you can do it. I wish I never had to leave.
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